let's talk '15

ASUCatFan · Post by **ASUCatFan** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:07 pm

Puerco wrote:
And the bottom line is that if some kid doesn't come to the UA because his mom was upset about random internet chatter? So be it.

As a family member of a D1 athlete, I sort of have to disagree with you here. Family members read the boards and family members get upset when they read stupid conjecture and other random uninformed shit. I think it's natural to be bothered by someone saying bad things about your family members. I know I'm tempted to drive up to Iowa City and throat punch some farmers from time to time.

The bottom line is, why badmouth a recruit or even an active player? Its bad form.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:55 am

ASUCatFan wrote:
Puerco wrote:
And the bottom line is that if some kid doesn't come to the UA because his mom was upset about random internet chatter? So be it.
As a family member of a D1 athlete, I sort of have to disagree with you here. Family members read the boards and family members get upset when they read stupid conjecture and other random uninformed shit. I think it's natural to be bothered by someone saying bad things about your family members. I know I'm tempted to drive up to Iowa City and throat punch some farmers from time to time.

The bottom line is, why badmouth a recruit or even an active player? Its bad form.

That's why every coach tells every parent and close relative to STAY OFF the message boards, no matter what. They are fans speculating who don't know what it's like and just like to talk shit, you know, like when you watch your favorite football team and curse at a player for missing a play. It's just fans having fun, doubt anyone who says anything negative would ever think about saying those things to the kid's face, in fact, they'd probably be star struck and shy, brag on the board about meeting said kid.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:04 pm

97cats wrote:it's all about Ivan Rabb for the final in '15 -- lets talk '16 thread coming soon.....

for those that don't want to dig themselves

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:05 pm

97cats wrote:
97cats wrote:it's all about Ivan Rabb for the final in '15 -- lets talk '16 thread coming soon.....
for those that don't want to dig themselves

I can dig it

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:43 pm

97cats wrote:
97cats wrote:it's all about Ivan Rabb for the final in '15 -- lets talk '16 thread coming soon.....
for those that don't want to dig themselves

So how's it looking for Rabb?

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:14 am

97cats wrote:
97cats wrote:it's all about Ivan Rabb for the final in '15 -- lets talk '16 thread coming soon.....
for those that don't want to dig themselves

Is Tarc still close to a lock for going pro?

I would think he has to give some thoughts on coming back and wouldn't that end all recruiting for 2015?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:36 am

Yeah if tarc stays that kinda takes rabb's place right? Since rabb was most likely a one and done anyway.

BeetzyB · Post by **BeetzyB** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:46 am

Big Ive had 22 & 7 against #1 Montverde on ESPN the other night. Nice post moves, but didn't play much (foul trouble).

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:56 am

Rabb is a PF at the NBA level who can play C in college.

I doubt Tarc coming back hurts with Rabb.

Where it might hurt is Ristic, who would likely be ready for more PT as a sophomore, and, maybe, Victor who'd be the 5th big after Tarc/Ristic/Rabb/Anderson. Will Ristic/Victor wait if Tarc returns and Rabb or Swanigan commit?

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:58 am

JMarkJohns wrote:Rabb is a PF at the NBA level who can play C in college.

I doubt Tarc coming back hurts with Rabb.

Where it might hurt is Ristic, who would likely be ready for more PT as a sophomore, and, maybe, Victor who'd be the 5th big after Tarc/Ristic/Rabb/Anderson. Will Ristic/Victor wait if Tarc returns and Rabb or Swanigan commit?

I was more looking at will Arizona even have another spot available if Tarc comes back for his senior year?

Seems someone would have to move on if Arizona wanted to add another spring player if Tarc came back.

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:04 am

PG: PJC, Simon
SG: York, Trier, Allen
SF: Smith, Pitts
PF: Anderson, Victor
C: Ristic

That's 10, so AZ can have two return and still have a scholarship for Rabb/Swanigan.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:44 am

When I see Derrick Williams struggling to get PT on bad teams, have to wonder if these guys are prepared for that. He had more game, offensively, than Ashley and Rondae. I don't doubt they're leaving, just wonder if they're ready to be irrelevant for the next few years.

Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic. Robert Sacre, Greg Oostertag and on and on. Ready to sit? Better be.

Anyway, would rather have Tarc as a senior than Rabb as a frosh, especially with Anderson, Victor and Ristic on board.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:17 pm

gumby wrote:When I see Derrick Williams struggling to get PT on bad teams, have to wonder if these guys are prepared for that. He had more game, offensively, than Ashley and Rondae. I don't doubt they're leaving, just wonder if they're ready to be irrelevant for the next few years.

Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic. Robert Sacre, Greg Oostertag and on and on. Ready to sit? Better be.

Anyway, would rather have Tarc as a senior than Rabb as a frosh, especially with Anderson, Victor and Ristic on board.

"Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic"

But Ristic is, lol.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:49 pm

Well there aren't going to be many former Miller coached Arizona players in the NBA that lead their teams in scoring..

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:59 pm

Bosy Billups wrote:
gumby wrote:When I see Derrick Williams struggling to get PT on bad teams, have to wonder if these guys are prepared for that. He had more game, offensively, than Ashley and Rondae. I don't doubt they're leaving, just wonder if they're ready to be irrelevant for the next few years.

Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic. Robert Sacre, Greg Oostertag and on and on. Ready to sit? Better be.

Anyway, would rather have Tarc as a senior than Rabb as a frosh, especially with Anderson, Victor and Ristic on board.
"Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic"

But Ristic is, lol.

Ristic is leaving after this year? If not, you missed the point.

Oh, and, lol! It's good to be a teenager again.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:05 pm

It's not going to work out well to have essentially two one-and-dones splitting time at the 4 either.

In other words, major logjam along the front line if Zeus stays for his senior year and Rabb comes here, regardless of what Victor does next year.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:19 pm

gumby wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:
gumby wrote:When I see Derrick Williams struggling to get PT on bad teams, have to wonder if these guys are prepared for that. He had more game, offensively, than Ashley and Rondae. I don't doubt they're leaving, just wonder if they're ready to be irrelevant for the next few years.

Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic. Robert Sacre, Greg Oostertag and on and on. Ready to sit? Better be.

Anyway, would rather have Tarc as a senior than Rabb as a frosh, especially with Anderson, Victor and Ristic on board.
"Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic"

But Ristic is, lol.
Ristic is leaving after this year? If not, you missed the point.

Oh, and, lol! It's good to be a teenager again.

ROFL, sorry for being younger than you, mr. mature message boarder.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:30 pm

JMarkJohns wrote:PG: PJC, Simon
SG: York, Trier, Allen
SF: Smith, Pitts
PF: Anderson, Victor
C: Ristic

That's 10, so AZ can have two return and still have a scholarship for Rabb/Swanigan.

Can Victor play some 3? He seems like a tweener at the 4.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:37 pm

catgrad97 wrote:It's not going to work out well to have essentially two one-and-dones splitting time at the 4 either.

In other words, major logjam along the front line if Zeus stays for his senior year and Rabb comes here, regardless of what Victor does next year.

Seems Zeus excells/enjoys the academic side and I get the impression he's doing well in the business school and in his opportunities outside of basketball at the University.
I'd imagine he "moves on" after this season but it's kind of ashame these guys "can't" stay all four anymore. Maybe it's a testament to how well Miller/Rounds/Staff truely develp these guys both as players and on the academic side. Impressive.

Anybody know if Zeus is finishing his undergrad this year?

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:08 pm

CBCat wrote:
JMarkJohns wrote:PG: PJC, Simon
SG: York, Trier, Allen
SF: Smith, Pitts
PF: Anderson, Victor
C: Ristic, (Comanche)

That's 10, so AZ can have two return and still have a scholarship for Rabb/Swanigan.
Can Victor play some 3? He seems like a tweener at the 4.

Maybe on offense, but for Miller, where you play is where you can defend well. That's likely PF for Victor.

I think my ideal would be for both Ashley and Tarc to come back. That 2015 team will be so young, it'd be great to have some senior frontcourt leadership for defense, rebounding, and low-post offense.

PG: Jackson-Cartwright (so), Allen (rs-so), Simon (fr)
SG: York (sr), Trier (fr)
SF: Pitts (jr), Smith (fr)
PF: Ashley (sr), Anderson (rs-sr), Victor (so)
C: Tarczewski (sr), Ristic (so), Comanche (fr/rs)

That's 13. I'd forgotten Comanche earlier, so that's one returnee and Rabb/Swanigan, or two returnees, or an expected transfer/early entry.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:14 pm

Starting York and Pitts?

That would make the "Start York" and "Start Pitts" crowd heads explode.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:15 pm

Bosy Billups wrote: ROFL, sorry for being younger than you, mr. mature message boarder.

I'm old and I use lol/lmao etc. all the time. probably too much actually.

JMarkJohns · Post by **JMarkJohns** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:27 pm

Alieberman wrote:Starting York and Pitts?

That would make the "Start York" and "Start Pitts" crowd heads explode.

I'd love to start two upperclassmen wing shooters to flank two senior bigs.

For as good as Trier and Smith are, both are young, and Miller favors experience defensively.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:05 pm

Bosy Billups wrote:
gumby wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:
gumby wrote:When I see Derrick Williams struggling to get PT on bad teams, have to wonder if these guys are prepared for that. He had more game, offensively, than Ashley and Rondae. I don't doubt they're leaving, just wonder if they're ready to be irrelevant for the next few years.

Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic. Robert Sacre, Greg Oostertag and on and on. Ready to sit? Better be.

Anyway, would rather have Tarc as a senior than Rabb as a frosh, especially with Anderson, Victor and Ristic on board.
"Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic"

But Ristic is, lol.
Ristic is leaving after this year? If not, you missed the point.

Oh, and, lol! It's good to be a teenager again.
ROFL, sorry for being younger than you, mr. mature message boarder.

Word on the street is OMG!!!!!!

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:33 pm

gumby wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:
gumby wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:
gumby wrote:When I see Derrick Williams struggling to get PT on bad teams, have to wonder if these guys are prepared for that. He had more game, offensively, than Ashley and Rondae. I don't doubt they're leaving, just wonder if they're ready to be irrelevant for the next few years.

Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic. Robert Sacre, Greg Oostertag and on and on. Ready to sit? Better be.

Anyway, would rather have Tarc as a senior than Rabb as a frosh, especially with Anderson, Victor and Ristic on board.
"Tarc is no Lopez twin, or even Vucevic"

But Ristic is, lol.
Ristic is leaving after this year? If not, you missed the point.

Oh, and, lol! It's good to be a teenager again.
ROFL, sorry for being younger than you, mr. mature message boarder.
Word on the street is OMG!!!!!!

Totes!

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:00 am

YOLO, amirite?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:19 am

So is Rabb going to Cal?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:07 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:So is Rabb going to Cal?

Has there been a time where thousands of people wonder something, and you hit paydirt by asking the question?

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:44 pm

Rivals.com ✔ @Rivals
HOOPS: 5-star C Stephen Zimmerman recaps official visits, says decision is harder now: http://rvls.co/1ABsvVm ($) #Zona #KU #UKRetweeted by Matt Moreno

So am I crazy to think that AZ is in Zimmermans top 3. I thought UCLA was a family legacy school?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:55 pm

3goggles wrote:Rivals.com ✔ @Rivals
HOOPS: 5-star C Stephen Zimmerman recaps official visits, says decision is harder now: http://rvls.co/1ABsvVm ($) #Zona #KU #UKRetweeted by Matt Moreno

So am I crazy to think that AZ is in Zimmermans top 3. I thought UCLA was a family legacy school?

I have no idea where he's going, but I'll predict this - if he picks Arizona over Kansas, enfuego will be here every game telling us how horrible he is. If he picks Kansas, he's second only to Wilt Chamberlain for centers in KU history.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:36 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:
3goggles wrote:Rivals.com ✔ @Rivals
HOOPS: 5-star C Stephen Zimmerman recaps official visits, says decision is harder now: http://rvls.co/1ABsvVm ($) #Zona #KU #UKRetweeted by Matt Moreno

So am I crazy to think that AZ is in Zimmermans top 3. I thought UCLA was a family legacy school?
I have no idea where he's going, but I'll predict this - if he picks Arizona over Kansas, enfuego will be here every game telling us how horrible he is. If he picks Kansas, he's second only to Wilt Chamberlain for centers in KU history.

and don't forget Center's that go to Arizona would have developed sooooo much more at Kansas

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:39 pm

OK, so if we don't get any of the 'big three' in 15 (I know slap my face for even thinking about it, but...), wouldn't this guy, Thon Maker, be a pretty fair consolation prize? He's currently class of '16 but is apparently thinking about reclassifying to '15 and he does have an Arizona offer.

Yes its a mix-tape, but day-um!

True seven-footer runs the floor and passes like a point guard. He can hit from the arc and can play with his back to the basket. He can catch a pass and finish at the rim. What's not to like? Needs to put on some muscle/weight - so did Zeus when he arrived.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:58 pm

RichardCranium wrote:OK, so if we don't get any of the 'big three' in 15 (I know slap my face for even thinking about it, but...), wouldn't this guy, Thon Maker, be a pretty fair consolation prize? He's currently class of '16 but is apparently thinking about reclassifying to '15 and he does have an Arizona offer.

Yes its a mix-tape, but day-um!

True seven-footer runs the floor and passes like a point guard. He can hit from the arc and can play with his back to the basket. He can catch a pass and finish at the rim. What's not to like? Needs to put on some muscle/weight - so did Zeus when he arrived.

Thon in my opinion is the best player in any class and I don't think we have any shot at him. Whoever gets him will be an instant competitor. Any word on if he officially switched to '15?

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:35 pm

Ivan Rabb was sitting front row at Mr.Ans for RJ birthday! Damn I hope we roll the Devils by 100 and show him how mckale gets rockin. Huge Visit!!!

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:44 am

UA interested in 7 foot Greek big man:

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... apagiannis

Looks like Miller is looking for fall-backs for Zimmerman/Rabb

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:01 am

Seems to shoot ft's well. Not much else on the vid.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:59 am

dmjcat wrote:UA interested in 7 foot Greek big man:

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... apagiannis

Looks like Miller is looking for fall-backs for Zimmerman/Rabb

Zimmerman is not coming to Arizona.

Airizona · Post by **Airizona** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:17 am

McD's All American roster is announced tonight, who do you guys think makes it? I think Trier and Rabb....Smith probably would have had he not been injured

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:20 am

Airizona wrote:McD's All American roster is announced tonight, who do you guys think makes it? I think Trier and Rabb....Smith probably would have had he not been injured

correct

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:04 pm

97cats wrote:
dmjcat wrote:UA interested in 7 foot Greek big man:

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... apagiannis

Looks like Miller is looking for fall-backs for Zimmerman/Rabb
Zimmerman is not coming to Arizona.

Why not?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:07 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
97cats wrote:
dmjcat wrote:UA interested in 7 foot Greek big man:

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/recruiting ... apagiannis

Looks like Miller is looking for fall-backs for Zimmerman/Rabb
Zimmerman is not coming to Arizona.
Why not?

It's not us, it's him. Don't take it so hard slugger...

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:09 pm

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:22 pm

Chicat wrote:
It's not us, it's him. Don't take it so hard slugger...

its actually both -- UCLA leading with a chance for Kansas

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:22 pm

97cats wrote:
Chicat wrote:
It's not us, it's him. Don't take it so hard slugger...
its actually both -- UCLA leading with a chance for Kansas

Ivan Rabb too -- no surprise

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:24 pm

97cats wrote:
97cats wrote:
Chicat wrote:
It's not us, it's him. Don't take it so hard slugger...
its actually both -- UCLA leading with a chance for Kansas
Ivan Rabb too -- no surprise

Wait, wait, wait...UCLA is leading for Zimmerman and Rabb?? How in the hell is that possible?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:25 pm

97cats wrote:
97cats wrote:
Chicat wrote:
It's not us, it's him. Don't take it so hard slugger...
its actually both -- UCLA leading with a chance for Kansas
Ivan Rabb too -- no surprise

Wait.... what?

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:28 pm

Rabb is a McD's All-American too -- Zimmerman to AZ = zero chance

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:29 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
Wait, wait, wait...UCLA is leading for Zimmerman and Rabb?? How in the hell is that possible?

no

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:38 pm

97cats wrote:
97cats wrote:
Chicat wrote:
It's not us, it's him. Don't take it so hard slugger...
its actually both -- UCLA leading with a chance for Kansas
Ivan Rabb too -- no surprise

Nine Sevun, I'm confused---no surprise.

Do you mean UCLA leading for IR as well as for ZIMM, or I hope and trust that you mean the IR/CAL/UA situation is analogous to the Zimmerman/UCLA/UA picture.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:41 pm

Haha 97, you had me very confused for a second there. And right after I said you don't tease in another thread!

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