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Anyone know the tip time for Saturday?
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First game of the day, 12:45 EST, so is that 10:45 in Salt Lake?
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It is. Utah is an hour ahead of us this time of year.g32knights wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:16 pmFirst game of the day, 12:45 EST, so is that 10:45 in Salt Lake?
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Has anyone seen Charles Barkleys NCAA bracket predictions???
https://www.oregonlive.com/collegebaske ... -game.html
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Charles always supports us every year. Nice to have one guy with our back.dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:54 pm Has anyone seen Charles Barkleys NCAA bracket predictions???
https://www.oregonlive.com/collegebaske ... -game.html
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His daughter was a student at the UA of memory serves
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Some might see it as a curseAZCatGirl wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:21 pmCharles always supports us every year. Nice to have one guy with our back.dmjcat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:54 pm Has anyone seen Charles Barkleys NCAA bracket predictions???
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Is there a team you've watched in the tourney that you thought to yourself, "yeah, Arizona couldn't beat these guys"?
Of the teams remaining, I feel like UConn and Houston are scariest. The only reason I leave off Purdue is because I can't see Loyer and Smith going 9-16 from 3 again against us. Tommy would have our guys better prepared to watch those shooters. We were within 4 of the Boilermakers with 5 minutes to play. On a "neutral" court in Phoenix, I'd love our chances against them.
Clingan, to me, is the best player remaining in the tournament. He's equally impactful on both ends of the floor, and our only player who'd stand a chance guarding him is Keshad.
And with Houston, I'm just in awe of their steady play and execution. Even as A&M chipped away at Houston's lead yesterday, did anyone ever really feel like the Cougs would lose? Sharp, Shead, Cryer...that's the best backcourt in the country.
Of the teams remaining, I feel like UConn and Houston are scariest. The only reason I leave off Purdue is because I can't see Loyer and Smith going 9-16 from 3 again against us. Tommy would have our guys better prepared to watch those shooters. We were within 4 of the Boilermakers with 5 minutes to play. On a "neutral" court in Phoenix, I'd love our chances against them.
Clingan, to me, is the best player remaining in the tournament. He's equally impactful on both ends of the floor, and our only player who'd stand a chance guarding him is Keshad.
And with Houston, I'm just in awe of their steady play and execution. Even as A&M chipped away at Houston's lead yesterday, did anyone ever really feel like the Cougs would lose? Sharp, Shead, Cryer...that's the best backcourt in the country.
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If we play like we did for most of the first half of the Dayton game, and how we've seen in stretches throughout the season, I think we have a shot against any team in a 1 game scenario.Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:17 pm Is there a team you've watched in the tourney that you thought to yourself, "yeah, Arizona couldn't beat these guys"?
Of the teams remaining, I feel like UConn and Houston are scariest. The only reason I leave off Purdue is because I can't see Loyer and Smith going 9-16 from 3 again against us. Tommy would have our guys better prepared to watch those shooters. We were within 4 of the Boilermakers with 5 minutes to play. On a "neutral" court in Phoenix, I'd love our chances against them.
Clingan, to me, is the best player remaining in the tournament. He's equally impactful on both ends of the floor, and our only player who'd stand a chance guarding him is Keshad.
And with Houston, I'm just in awe of their steady play and execution. Even as A&M chipped away at Houston's lead yesterday, did anyone ever really feel like the Cougs would lose? Sharp, Shead, Cryer...that's the best backcourt in the country.
I agree that UCONN and Houston are scary good. Would love for a matchup with either of them to be title game, but unfortunately can't be the case for UCONN!
Houston's guard play is something to see for sure, I didn't think Houston would lose either - felt like anytime A&M made a run or had a chance that it was shut down by a big play from Houston. Even with a bunch of their starters fouling out in OT they still managed to hang on too.
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It’s crazy the path Sampson has traveled.
While at WA ST he was a popular choice to replace Lute if Lute had left for KY.
Instead he goes to OK and things don’t go that well.
He gets in trouble with NCAA. Then he appears at HOU and turns them into a contender for multiple years.
While at WA ST he was a popular choice to replace Lute if Lute had left for KY.
Instead he goes to OK and things don’t go that well.
He gets in trouble with NCAA. Then he appears at HOU and turns them into a contender for multiple years.
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I'm impressed with the identity he's brought to the Houston program. He's been recruiting the right players for that program, and they're thriving. Can't believe they also had Sasser last year.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:54 am It’s crazy the path Sampson has traveled.
While at WA ST he was a popular choice to replace Lute if Lute had left for KY.
Instead he goes to OK and things don’t go that well.
He gets in trouble with NCAA. Then he appears at HOU and turns them into a contender for multiple years.
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He got a show cause ban at Indiana. It was really fucked up.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:54 am It’s crazy the path Sampson has traveled.
While at WA ST he was a popular choice to replace Lute if Lute had left for KY.
Instead he goes to OK and things don’t go that well.
He gets in trouble with NCAA. Then he appears at HOU and turns them into a contender for multiple years.
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I forgot IU. I was thinking he got a “show cause” but I wasn’t positive so I didn’t add it in my post. I was also thinking, if he did , it was at OU.wyo-cat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:10 pmHe got a show cause ban at Indiana. It was really fucked up.Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:54 am It’s crazy the path Sampson has traveled.
While at WA ST he was a popular choice to replace Lute if Lute had left for KY.
Instead he goes to OK and things don’t go that well.
He gets in trouble with NCAA. Then he appears at HOU and turns them into a contender for multiple years.
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Purdue is 7-0 against Sweet 16 teams.
Crazy stat!
Crazy stat!
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Our 3 transfers from this season came from Alabama, UNC & SDSU . Those teams are all in the Sweet 16
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Here are the 2024 sweet sixteen TEAM rankings. Each and every player is given a "value" determined by his Hollinger PER multiplied by the PERCENT of minutes he has played for the team. The TEAM value is the sum of the player values.
2087 UConn
2051 Gonzaga
1984 Purdue
1927 Houston
1918 Arizona
1916 Duke
1914 Alabama
1884 Illinois
1858 Creighton
1820 Marquette
1806 Iowa State
1789 Tennessee
1788 North Carolina
1729 Clemson
1720 NC State
1682 San Diego State
Arizona should reach the Elite Eight tomorrow.
Don't be surprised if the "Caleb Love" game with North Carolina never happens - Arizona could end up with a worse matchup vs. Alabama.
Don't be surprised if Zach Edey never sees an Elite Eight. Gonzaga was seriously under-seeded this year.
2087 UConn
2051 Gonzaga
1984 Purdue
1927 Houston
1918 Arizona
1916 Duke
1914 Alabama
1884 Illinois
1858 Creighton
1820 Marquette
1806 Iowa State
1789 Tennessee
1788 North Carolina
1729 Clemson
1720 NC State
1682 San Diego State
Arizona should reach the Elite Eight tomorrow.
Don't be surprised if the "Caleb Love" game with North Carolina never happens - Arizona could end up with a worse matchup vs. Alabama.
Don't be surprised if Zach Edey never sees an Elite Eight. Gonzaga was seriously under-seeded this year.
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I’m good with all those outcomes Kaibab’
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This is a pretty big boy loaded sweet 16. Cindarella is watching at home
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I'm fine with the less heralded "Jaden Bradley" game with Alabama this weekend.KaibabKat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:11 pm Here are the 2024 sweet sixteen TEAM rankings. Each and every player is given a "value" determined by his Hollinger PER multiplied by the PERCENT of minutes he has played for the team. The TEAM value is the sum of the player values.
2087 UConn
2051 Gonzaga
1984 Purdue
1927 Houston
1918 Arizona
1916 Duke
1914 Alabama
1884 Illinois
1858 Creighton
1820 Marquette
1806 Iowa State
1789 Tennessee
1788 North Carolina
1729 Clemson
1720 NC State
1682 San Diego State
Arizona should reach the Elite Eight tomorrow.
Don't be surprised if the "Caleb Love" game with North Carolina never happens - Arizona could end up with a worse matchup vs. Alabama.
Don't be surprised if Zach Edey never sees an Elite Eight. Gonzaga was seriously under-seeded this year.
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Alabama does make me a little nervous since we beat them before, but with a Final 4 on the line I think our guys will be ready no matter who we play.
Gotta take care of tomorrow first though.
Gotta take care of tomorrow first though.
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UNC will beat Bama in a high scoring game
Our game is going to be close but I do think we win. Clemson is only 8-8 when they score 73 points but 15-3 when the control tempo. Couple that with a brutal travel schedule and they will be walking it up the court all night.
Not sure how they have held their opposition in this tournament to 9-47 from three but since we generally don’t take a lot of three’s (ranked like 250+) this would be another readon thus one should stay close.
Our game is going to be close but I do think we win. Clemson is only 8-8 when they score 73 points but 15-3 when the control tempo. Couple that with a brutal travel schedule and they will be walking it up the court all night.
Not sure how they have held their opposition in this tournament to 9-47 from three but since we generally don’t take a lot of three’s (ranked like 250+) this would be another readon thus one should stay close.
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When I hear National pundits talk about this game it becomes clear that they really don’t watch Arizona. Just “Caleb love experience” and Clemson with the upset.
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Hmmm...CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:34 am When I hear National pundits talk about this game it becomes clear that they really don’t watch Arizona. Just “Caleb love experience” and Clemson with the upset.
I have yet to see a national pundit pick Clemson. In any case, so the fuck what?
Most of the pundits I've seen focus on Ballo vs Hall; Clemson's lack of forcing TO's, Our offensive rebounding, and our 8-man depth
We're playing the second lowest seed in the Sweet 16.
If we play our game, we adevance.
BTFD!!!!
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First thought when I saw Gonzaga that high is that the data isn’t corrected for SOS?KaibabKat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:11 pm Here are the 2024 sweet sixteen TEAM rankings. Each and every player is given a "value" determined by his Hollinger PER multiplied by the PERCENT of minutes he has played for the team. The TEAM value is the sum of the player values.
2087 UConn
2051 Gonzaga
1984 Purdue
1927 Houston
1918 Arizona
1916 Duke
1914 Alabama
1884 Illinois
1858 Creighton
1820 Marquette
1806 Iowa State
1789 Tennessee
1788 North Carolina
1729 Clemson
1720 NC State
1682 San Diego State
Arizona should reach the Elite Eight tomorrow.
Don't be surprised if the "Caleb Love" game with North Carolina never happens - Arizona could end up with a worse matchup vs. Alabama.
Don't be surprised if Zach Edey never sees an Elite Eight. Gonzaga was seriously under-seeded this year.
I.e. it’s easier to put up good Hollinger numbers in the WCC than it is the ACC, B1G, B12, etc.
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Their defense didn't look outstanding in the Baylor game, I watched the whole thing. Baylor missed a lot of good looks from 3. Not sure about NM as I didn't see much of that game.azcat49 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:58 am UNC will beat Bama in a high scoring game
Our game is going to be close but I do think we win. Clemson is only 8-8 when they score 73 points but 15-3 when the control tempo. Couple that with a brutal travel schedule and they will be walking it up the court all night.
Not sure how they have held their opposition in this tournament to 9-47 from three but since we generally don’t take a lot of three’s (ranked like 250+) this would be another readon thus one should stay close.
As you mentioned with three's not being our primary offense, I think we'll be in a good spot - don't force 3's, drive and kick out for good looks, work the matchups inside with Ballo etc.
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We are 7 point faves, we've covered our tourney games, if we keep that up we win.
Need to start covering by more than 1 though.
Need to start covering by more than 1 though.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
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Just win. I never bet on AZ, so the line is meaningless to me.U.P. Zona Fan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:39 am We are 7 point faves, we've covered our tourney games, if we keep that up we win.
Need to start covering by more than 1 though.
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Next season feels very unpredictable right now. Roster still has some questions. A 3 seed would be a pretty damn good outcome for the team, given we’ll have earned it in a tougher conference.
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Cripes, UA overrated again. UA may have an all new starting lineup if Love does not come back.
Hasn't the UA lost to lower seeds 6 tourneys in a row?
Hasn't the UA lost to lower seeds 6 tourneys in a row?
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I’ve learned to take these very optimistic forecasts as a sign of respect for Tommy and the program. Even with the roster instability, they still think Tommy will ultimately put it all together and earn another high seed.
I’m much less interested in 2025 Bracketology than in what Caleb, K.J. and Jaden are going to do.
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1993 & 2023 - 30 years apart...
... What possible meaningful conclusion could anyone make out of those two unrelated facts???
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.... that we only need two consecutive 15 year periods in which to prove that we are uniquely special at not having nice things.
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OKdovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 7:45 pm.... that we only need two consecutive 15 year periods in which to prove that we are uniquely special at not having nice things.
...and it's in our culture, because we accomplish this high/low achievement with entirely different personnel in every level of the Athletic Department (Head coaches through all assistants, trainers, support staff, players, administrators, announcers, and McKale personnel.
Only demented boomer fans and Greg Hansen can be relied upon for verbal witness accounts, so you, fine reader, know it's real af!
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It's hard to argue with that broad input series.pc in NM wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 7:57 pmOKdovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 7:45 pm.... that we only need two consecutive 15 year periods in which to prove that we are uniquely special at not having nice things.
...and it's in our culture, because we accomplish this high/low achievement with entirely different personnel in every level of the Athletic Department (Head coaches through all assistants, trainers, support staff, players, administrators, announcers, and McKale personnel.
Across any generation recognition of one's nature is the first real step toward reconciling experience with understanding.
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No Merk I don't follow U of A basketball. Do you realize that Virginia and Purdue or the only number 1 seeded teams to lose in the first round and in the following year play for the championship? Bad matchups happen or you believe that they just got that much better?
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What’s your beef, TC? Feel like your tone’s gotten more peevish or aggressive.TheCat wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 6:57 amNo Merk I don't follow U of A basketball. Do you realize that Virginia and Purdue or the only number 1 seeded teams to lose in the first round and in the following year play for the championship? Bad matchups happen or you believe that they just got that much better?
We’re all on the same team.
Bear down!
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No just think that ole Merk has been a little negative and that most here don't appreciate the luck and skill that it takes to play at a level that is needed to get to a final four. I think if you pulled any statistics it would say teams like Duke or Kentucky or Kansas have lost to teams rated below them more than Arizona in the tourney because they are often one or two seeds. Wasn't it Sean Miller for the longest time that never lost to a lower seed? Well that changed when he became a one or two seed.
If success is measured only by NCAA wins then it will be tough to be happy in life. I appreciate the players and coaches that give their time and effort to be part of Arizona.
If success is measured only by NCAA wins then it will be tough to be happy in life. I appreciate the players and coaches that give their time and effort to be part of Arizona.
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