2024 Transfer Portal

[azgreg]

[tgrumpy2]

I know playing time is a large factor here but there are other power schools with playing time available so it is not all that

I think Umberto Lopez might be adding a bit to the NIL pile. He routinely flies under the radar and doesn't seek publicity. I also think he had a lot to do with players staying after Fischsticks left. That guy has FU money.

[PHXCATS]

I know playing time is a large factor here but there are other power schools with playing time available so it is not all that

I think Umberto Lopez might be adding a bit to the NIL pile. He routinely flies under the radar and doesn't seek publicity. I also think he had a lot to do with players staying after Fischsticks left. That guy has FU money.

For sure helps a bit

[TheCatInTheHat]

Anybody have the low-down on this guy? He was supposed to be a major O-line contributor at some point. Got injured before his freshman season in a scooter accident, then started a game and injured an ankle. Before this past (sophomore) season, Brennan announced he "wouldn't be available" all season-long, with no further explanation. He's on the roster and hasn't announced for the portal, but in his last couple of stories talking about the O-line, Spears hasn't mentioned him. I'd assume the ankle or any concussion protocol would be resolved by now. I'm not trying to pry into any big personal issue, if any, but if he's on the team, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect an official (non-speculative) explanation as to whether he'll be available to play or not.

[azcat49]

What I had heard was Fisch was working his Dad to get him to come to UDub. Basically his Dad was guaranteeing he would come and Fisch sent a bag to his Dad to get it going. Only problem was son didn’t want to go. I think he had a girl here that he was serious with (not 100% sure on that). The whole thing splintered the family abd he said he was done playing and stuck to his guns. No clue if he will step back in since his Dad is still very overbearing

[Merkin]

Brennan said it wasn't football related, so maybe it was family/girlfriend related.

[azcat49]

Heard this all second hand so while I think the source is good, I am only repeating what I heard. No clue on his future

[AZarchery]

Love it

Seems like people like and believe in Brennan.

Then why did half of the team enter the portal?

[dovecanyoncat]

Love it

Seems like people like and believe in Brennan.

Then why did half of the team enter the portal?

Machina: Thanks a lot bitch(es)

[tgrumpy2]

Love it

Seems like people like and believe in Brennan.

Then why did half of the team enter the portal?

Why does it have to be because of the coach?

[azgreg]

I fully believe some were pushed out, some are chasing a bigger paycheck, and some just want a change in scenery.

[azcat49]

If you are a college football player and you don’t enter the portal to find your value or to at least find a place to play, then you are not thinking right.

Most of those guys will never play in the league and that portal money is all they might get from their football career. It’s the new norm and not isolated to the UofA

[PHXCATS]

Love it

Seems like people like and believe in Brennan.

Then why did half of the team enter the portal?

Playing time

Fans

Chance at more money

Friends

Family

Many reasons besides coaching

[Chicat]

Love it

Seems like people like and believe in Brennan.

Then why did half of the team enter the portal?

Playing time

Fans

Chance at more money

Friends

Family

Many reasons besides coaching

“Son, you want to tell me why you’re thinking about transferring?”

“Well, you see Coach, there’s only one fan who truly Bears Down and he goes by PHXCATS online, but other than him they all suck, so I’m thinking of moving on someplace where they all Bear Down as hard as he does…”

[TheCatInTheHat]

Thanks for the info above on Pulido.

[Fishclamps]

Stukes back

[Chicat]

Stukes back

Feels like a big re-recruit. Nice work by the staff.

[Carcassdragger]

Stukes back

Feels like a big re-recruit. Nice work by the staff.

Great news!!

[Fishclamps]

So out of all those guys that took that Washington visit, Manu is the only one that ended up there?

[Merkin]

Bet he knows who the DC is.

[azcat49]

Stukes back is a great holiday present. Does that make 2? Set the O/U at 3. Wonder if Davis will enter the draft or come back under Akina

[azgreg]

MGK to the portal.

[azgreg]

Adam Damante to the portal.

[dmjcat]

[84Cat]

Montana linebacker Riley Wilson transfers to Arizona

https://link.ag.fan/webview?id=676e129f ... code=84Cat

[Merkin]

Why wouldn't they? Even casual fans know about it.

Like has been said, don't know if her or elsewhere, even a near first round draft pick like Tacario Davis is expecting NIL money that would exceed what he would make in the pros.

If a fan knows who Doege is, they know all about NIL.

[Irish27]

[dmjcat]

Why wouldn't they? Even casual fans know about it.

Like has been said, don't know if her or elsewhere, even a near first round draft pick like Tacario Davis is expecting NIL money that would exceed what he would make in the pros.

If a fan knows who Doege is, they know all about NIL.

Disagree. We have multiple posters on this board who clearly do not understand the effect of NIL on UA recruiting.

We have had one poster who has opined that we should fire Brennan for, among other things, not connecting with high level recruits.

We have another poster on the basketball board who has stated that Lloyd should be "stockpiling talent" and having "staggering recruiting classes".........evidently completely unaware that these types of recruits come with high 6 figure/low 7 figure price tags and the UA just doesn't have that kind of money.

[Chicat]

Of course it’s about money. That’s what everyone has been saying for a few years now. Obviously we have some. The question is, do we have more than last year, and how much more are the players we want to transfer in asking in relation to how much the guy they are replacing was making?

What’s interesting for coaches is trying to navigate shifting funds between positions. Like if we have a bunch of guys already at WR who are happy with everything but you lose a stud from the group who was making a bunch, can that guy’s NIL shift over to the defense or are the coaches territorial and want it to stay with the WRs or on offense? And can individual donors who give large sums for a few specific guys get sold on other positions of need?

Lot more work being a coach these days.

[Winger]

Why wouldn't they? Even casual fans know about it.

Like has been said, don't know if her or elsewhere, even a near first round draft pick like Tacario Davis is expecting NIL money that would exceed what he would make in the pros.

If a fan knows who Doege is, they know all about NIL.

Disagree. We have multiple posters on this board who clearly do not understand the effect of NIL on UA recruiting.

We have had one poster who has opined that we should fire Brennan for, among other things, not connecting with high level recruits.

We have another poster on the basketball board who has stated that Lloyd should be "stockpiling talent" and having "staggering recruiting classes".........evidently completely unaware that these types of recruits come with high 6 figure/low 7 figure price tags and the UA just doesn't have that kind of money.

You can see the effect of the money everywhere imo.

The SEC becoming the dominant basketball conference in like 24 months. Texas suddenly becoming able to play the game at the highest level. The Oregons being able to compete on the lines vs the OSUs and Michigans (for reference see the degree to which UW was dominated on both LOSs by Michigan). The best high school players in the world committing to Rutgers last season and BYU this season. SMU’s billionaires coming for everyone.

Maybe even Arizona keeping Brennan (what’s the point of throwing good money after bad, we dont have a chance regardless, might as well let it play itself out until we know what the playing field looks like).

Shoot a year ago I was told that MSU’s baseball NIL was $3.5 mil. Mississippi State … baseball. Was told recently Arizona’s basketball NIL is $4 mil (zero clue if this is accurate) as a comparison.

A lot of things are going to change this off season when revenue sharing kicks in but I have zero clue the effect(s).

Course none of this is going to matter once the SEC and B1G break football off/away from everyone else and run their own playoff. At that point maybe the 2 leagues agree to something akin to a salary cap but even that would have to be collectively bargained to be legal.

[RawleArenas]

This is why some posters need to pass a general sports knowledge test before posting. I'm talking to you dmj. Just be a man and call me out.

Lloyd had issues recruiting certain players long before NIL morphed into it's present form. Did you forget about his complaints about recruiting when he first took the job? This was before NIL became a force in college sports. His problems predate his tenure as coach here and go all the way back to Gonzaga. He likes a certain type of player he's comfortable with, but those players come with a ceiling that kicks us out of the tournament every year. If Phil Knight switched schools Lloyd would still find ways to stink up the recruiting trail. Case in point, when Akinjo left Georgetown, Memphis, Gonzaga and a bunch of other schools were chasing him. Before he even could put together a list, Miller had already closed him. This was when our reputation was in the gutter. Can CTL do this? Remains to be seen.

Brennan should not be here. Like at all. He didn't even qualify to get an offer from a better mid major while he was coach at SJSU. People forget that despite our money issues and lack of tradition, the coaching position is still a P4 job. One of the most highly coveted positions in college sports. We could do much better than Brennan, a coach that will take NINE years to break .500 if he hits his ceiling of wins every year.

We would have been better off hiring Foles as interim coach until we found a replacement. In any event, NIL is not the deodorant CBB needs to save his career. Never give room for a ne'er-do-well to spread his wings.

[Fishclamps]

Not a good pickup

[azcat49]

Not sure how you would get anyone really good that knows he will be the #2. At least he has game experience.

[PHXCATS]

Not sure how you would get anyone really good that knows he will be the #2. At least he has game experience.

Exactly. This is a really good pickup when you factor in they are the QB2 or QB3

[PHXCATS]

I absolutely love the approach of taking all these superstar players at FCS to see what they can do at the power level

That fucking guy who has a concussion every play at assu was the same thing. Even if you hit on 33% you in great shape

Love the staff and how they are doing things this year with time to actually do things

[dmjcat]

This is why some posters need to pass a general sports knowledge test before posting. I'm talking to you dmj. Just be a man and call me out.

Lloyd had issues recruiting certain players long before NIL morphed into it's present form. Did you forget about his complaints about recruiting when he first took the job? This was before NIL became a force in college sports. His problems predate his tenure as coach here and go all the way back to Gonzaga. He likes a certain type of player he's comfortable with, but those players come with a ceiling that kicks us out of the tournament every year. If Phil Knight switched schools Lloyd would still find ways to stink up the recruiting trail. Case in point, when Akinjo left Georgetown, Memphis, Gonzaga and a bunch of other schools were chasing him. Before he even could put together a list, Miller had already closed him. This was when our reputation was in the gutter. Can CTL do this? Remains to be seen.

Brennan should not be here. Like at all. He didn't even qualify to get an offer from a better mid major while he was coach at SJSU. People forget that despite our money issues and lack of tradition, the coaching position is still a P4 job. One of the most highly coveted positions in college sports. We could do much better than Brennan, a coach that will take NINE years to break .500 if he hits his ceiling of wins every year.

We would have been better off hiring Foles as interim coach until we found a replacement. In any event, NIL is not the deodorant CBB needs to save his career. Never give room for a ne'er-do-well to spread his wings.

You stated that CTL should be "Stockpiling Players" and having "Staggering Recruiting Classes" headed into Big12 play.

This is an utterly clueless take and clearly demonstrates your complete lack of any "General Sports Knowledge".

NIL, for your information, took effect in Mid 2021 (3.5 years ago). The notion that CTL (or Brennan) should be expected to consistently haul in top ranked recruiting classes in todays world is utterly idiotic. And if you believe that additional NIL would not help Brennan in recruiting then you obviously possess ZERO general sports knowledge.

You are rapidly approaching Spaceman Spiff levels of naivete on this issue. You should do yourself a favor and stop posting before you dig the hole you are in any deeper.

[CatsbyAZ]

Not sure how you would get anyone really good that knows he will be the #2. At least he has game experience.

Exactly. This is a really good pickup when you factor in they are the QB2 or QB3

"He was one of the worst QBs - if not the worst - QB in major college football. He finished the season with 1,936 passing yards, 13 passing touchdowns, 10 interceptions and a 48.4 QBR."

[Chicat]

Let’s hope he was cheap.

[PHXCATS]

Not sure how you would get anyone really good that knows he will be the #2. At least he has game experience.

Exactly. This is a really good pickup when you factor in they are the QB2 or QB3

"He was one of the worst QBs - if not the worst - QB in major college football. He finished the season with 1,936 passing yards, 13 passing touchdowns, 10 interceptions and a 48.4 QBR."

Clay Travis isn't very good about predicting football

[TheCatInTheHat]

Considering we had a walk-on as our backup (and I wouldn't bother with his stats), and a couple of other guys coming in who were on high school campuses until about a week ago, we had a pretty glaring weakness there. Locke is currently a sophomore, and he compiled his stats for a non-vintage Wisconsin team playing a pretty tough schedule. Meanwhile, going from starter to playing backup at 4-8 Arizona is not exactly the most glamorous option to attract a top caliber QB. Locke's got experience in a tough league. The idea might even be to redshirt him unless disaster strikes, then let him compete with the two younger guys and maybe another transfer portal QB after next season. Under the circumstances, I'll take it.

[dmjcat]

Let’s hope he was cheap.

You usually get what you pay for so I suspect he probably was.

[RawleArenas]

So we’re right back here at square one. Listen dude, if other posters have to explain basic concepts to you that EVERYONE else understands (like my post about UK) then perhaps I'm not the problem. It seems you cannot make a point at all without projecting, misconstruing, or completely bungling takes. Never did I say that I expected CBB to bring in top recruiting classes, nor does 'staggering' recruiting classes imply top ten classes. That’s your projection/hang up, not mine.

With Brennan, you completely missed the point again. NIL is not going to help the product on the field if the leader cannot coach, which a majority of the posters here and at other sites have been arguing about the entire year. If CBB cannot manage and win with this past year's group, then what good is NIL going to do? He’s indefensible as a leader and coach. In basketball, it's Lloyd's job to find guys and put together a staff that will bring in top classes year in and year out. As great a recruiter as Miller was, he still had Book, Romar and JT to help him get guys he wouldn't normally land. Book played a big part in getting Rawle and a host of other players down here to Tucson. JT helped us get Terrell Brown. I consider the 2020-21 class staggering not because of its ranking, but because of the talent depth and level of evaluation. Mathurin, Terry, Azuolas and Batcho were not five star type players, but at the end of the day that class was as good as any top 5 class in the nation. It's CTL's responsibility to evaluate correctly (which he hasn't for the most part) and prioritize the right players (Sanon-Jamari, for example). He's not done a good job of leveraging his record in my view, which is why he needs to add coaches that can help him get over the hump. NIL certainly didn't hurt Cignetti or Fran Brown from overreaching their goals in year one. You never heard a peep of complaints out of them. But again, those guys can actually coach. Dilly did a better job in the portal than any top 10 team, in my opinion. ASU as far as I know has less NIL than we do.

You seem to be hung up on the premise that every player that's reasonably good costs a ton of NIL money, and therefore we're likely to miss out on him. AND that if we had just enough money, players will magically want to play for Lloyd, no matter if it's a good fit for them or not. Money will always be an issue, but the problem is moot if you have significant deficiencies in your leadership, something that you fail to address. What you call naivete, I call inevitable, because I have two eyes and a brain. Not all the players in the portal are worth their asking price, and there are many players who can contribute who are overlooked by many schools.

Stop quoting me if you can't understand my takes, you always end up twisting yourself up in knots. And by the way, Spiff was one of the better posters on this site or any other site for that matter.

Put some respect on his name.

[dmjcat]

So we’re right back here at square one. Listen dude, if other posters have to explain basic concepts to you that EVERYONE else understands (like my post about UK) then perhaps I'm not the problem. It seems you cannot make a point at all without projecting, misconstruing, or completely bungling takes. Never did I say that I expected CBB to bring in top recruiting classes, nor does 'staggering' recruiting classes imply top ten classes. That’s your projection/hang up, not mine.

With Brennan, you completely missed the point again. NIL is not going to help the product on the field if the leader cannot coach, which a majority of the posters here and at other sites have been arguing about the entire year. If CBB cannot manage and win with this past year's group, then what good is NIL going to do? He’s indefensible as a leader and coach. In basketball, it's Lloyd's job to find guys and put together a staff that will bring in top classes year in and year out. As great a recruiter as Miller was, he still had Book, Romar and JT to help him get guys he wouldn't normally land. Book played a big part in getting Rawle and a host of other players down here to Tucson. JT helped us get Terrell Brown. I consider the 2020-21 class staggering not because of its ranking, but because of the talent depth and level of evaluation. Mathurin, Terry, Azuolas and Batcho were not five star type players, but at the end of the day that class was as good as any top 5 class in the nation. It's CTL's responsibility to evaluate correctly (which he hasn't for the most part) and prioritize the right players (Sanon-Jamari, for example). He's not done a good job of leveraging his record in my view, which is why he needs to add coaches that can help him get over the hump. NIL certainly didn't hurt Cignetti or Fran Brown from overreaching their goals in year one. You never heard a peep of complaints out of them. But again, those guys can actually coach. Dilly did a better job in the portal than any top 10 team, in my opinion. ASU as far as I know has less NIL than we do.

You seem to be hung up on the premise that every player that's reasonably good costs a ton of NIL money, and therefore we're likely to miss out on him. AND that if we had just enough money, players will magically want to play for Lloyd, no matter if it's a good fit for them or not. Money will always be an issue, but the problem is moot if you have significant deficiencies in your leadership, something that you fail to address. What you call naivete, I call inevitable, because I have two eyes and a brain. Not all the players in the portal are worth their asking price, and there are many players who can contribute who are overlooked by many schools.

Stop quoting me if you can't understand my takes, you always end up twisting yourself up in knots. And by the way, Spiff was one of the better posters on this site or any other site for that matter.

Put some respect on his name.

OMG, You are still stuck in 2014 with Book Richardson.

Get it through your head, The #1 predictor for success in the NIL era is MONEY. Go take a look at who is in the top 20 in both football and basketball.

I'm sorry to disagree but if Brennan (or any other UA coach) has better talent then they will do better, period. Its the old Chicago Bulls question, was it Jordan/Pippen or Coach Jackson? Bottom line, if I had to choose between having either Jackson as my coach or having Jordan/Pippen I would take the players, every time. Talent almost always wins out.

As far as the CTL correctly priorizing players argument, both Jamari/Sanon went elsewhere entirely because of NIL.

With regards to "Understanding your takes" it would help if you could actually make a coherent argument or more accurately convey what it is you are thinking.

Finally, with respect to Spiff, I would say that he seemed to be a nice guy, but he was utterly clueless..........much like you.
Anyone who could not see that Phil Knight was buying up players at Oregon was truly living in La-La land.

Keep digging that hole Rawle.

[RawleArenas]

You, like Brennan, use a lot of the same tricks.

There are no holes, except the ones in your logic.

If you can't back up your statements, don't post. And better yet, don't quote me.

[dmjcat]

You, like Brennan, use a lot of the same tricks.

There are no holes, except the ones in your logic.

If you can't back up your statements, don't post. And better yet, don't quote me.

I have "backed up" my statements quite well. All I have done is to simply quote your "statements" which have been full of holes.

You are the one who has been arguing that CTL should be hauling in "staggering recruiting classes" and "stockpiling players" ..........all without the benefit of Top 20 NIL. I have merely pointed out that your reasoning is devoid of any logic or reason.

If you don't want to be quoted then don't post.

[RawleArenas]

If you feel this confident, then take your show on the road. Go to other fanbases and see what they have to say about your point of view. Just be sure to bring a tape recorder to capture the symphony of crickets in the background.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."
H.L. Mencken

[dmjcat]

If you feel this confident, then take your show on the road. Go to other fanbases and see what they have to say about your point of view. Just be sure to bring a tape recorder to capture the symphony of crickets in the background.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."
H.L. Mencken

A better idea would be for you to go on the road and team up with Chief. I'm sure your combined intellectual powers could quickly
turn the UA athletics deartment around without having any of that pesky money/NIL

[Fishclamps]

Not sure how you would get anyone really good that knows he will be the #2. At least he has game experience.

Yeah he has experience at not being very good. There's only been 1 good Wisconsin QB and it was Russell Wilson taking a pit stop in Madison on his way to the NFL.

[Chicat]

Not sure how you would get anyone really good that knows he will be the #2. At least he has game experience.

Yeah he has experience at not being very good. There's only been 1 good Wisconsin QB and it was Russell Wilson taking a pit stop in Madison on his way to the NFL.

I went to the internet to find a semi-recognizable UW quarterback to throw out a pithy joke about them being offended at your omission because I couldn’t think of one off the top of my head and holy shit…

Our QB legacy looks downright solid in comparison.

[Fishclamps]

My roommate is from Wisconsin so I've watched every Badger football game for like the last 15 years. They always had incredible running backs and lineman and that's it when it came to offense. I even remember earlier this year when people were throwing around Graham Mertz' name as a Heisman hopeful and I just couldn't help but laugh.