g32knights wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:49 am
It is so refreshing to play away games in front of great crowds and have every game be super competitive and intense.
No more playing mausoleums like Corvallis.
Agreed. And I was thinking while watching the game that if we lose I wouldn’t be that upset because the team played well and competed throughout against a pretty tough team in a hostile environment.
And I think the team actually responds better in that situation compared to past PAC games in Corvallis or Pullman where it looks like they were just going through the motions.
g32knights wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:49 am
It is so refreshing to play away games in front of great crowds and have every game be super competitive and intense.
No more playing mausoleums like Corvallis.
That crowd was awesome. So loud. Which made shutting them up all the sweeter. Every dagger three in the second half was like turning my speakers down from 300 to 3.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
g32knights wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:49 am
It is so refreshing to play away games in front of great crowds and have every game be super competitive and intense.
No more playing mausoleums like Corvallis.
That crowd was awesome. So loud. Which made shutting them up all the sweeter. Every dagger three in the second half was like turning my speakers down from 300 to 3.
I would like to know how is a coach that does not know how to properly recruit, construct a team, or even smart enough to put in the right starting lineup manage to get his team to 10-1 in the Big 12?
Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:34 am
I would like to know how is a coach that does not know how to properly recruit, construct a team, or even smart enough to put in the right starting lineup manage to get his team to 10-1 in the Big 12?
He’s a master at getting his team prepared and motivated, and a fucking wizard at the in-game shit?
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:34 am
I would like to know how is a coach that does not know how to properly recruit, construct a team, or even smart enough to put in the right starting lineup manage to get his team to 10-1 in the Big 12?
He’s a master at getting his team prepared and motivated, and a fucking wizard at the in-game shit?
Yes, and a lot of credit to Murph who I think is the XO guy. Murphy is out there instructing the players almost as much as Lloyd does.
Yeah Murphy's involvement is extremely underrated. He and Lloyd really make an amazing team.
It's easier to see if you go to games, but even on TV look how active he is during timeouts.
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“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
Speaking of Murph, did you see the little exchange between him and CTL last night? It looked like Tommy wasn’t enamored to what Murphy was barking out.
Was actually thinking about Murph last night, and about how he gave up a head coaching gig, voluntarily came back to Tucson to be an assistant, then survived a coaching change and is now Tommy’s right hand. And on top of all that turned himself into one hell of an international recruiter and gameday X’s & O’s guy.
I love it that Murph is our guy. I hope he never leaves.
As for the exchange with Tommy, it looked like once Murph explained, Tommy was on board.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
“These guys, they crushed it. They are playing so much better now than I am coaching, it is not even close,” said Wildcats coach Tommy Lloyd. “That’s how you know you have a good team.”
“Jaden is becoming the consummate point guard,” Lloyd said. “He understands winning.”
“You always cherish the opportunity to play in a place like this,” Lloyd said. “Fortunately, I have been with Gonzaga and Arizona. You come here, the games mean something, and the fans have always been amazing and it has always been something we look forward to.”
Some postgame comments by CTL. Just don’t see Bobby Hurley or Cronin conducting themselves like our guy
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Huge game Saturday between #7 and #9 in net. I really like Tech and the way they play. Their PG reminds me a lot of Eric Money
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Any word on Townsend's availability Saturday? That head bounce looked pretty bad, and he might have been a bit groggy as he headed to the locker room.
I couldn't tell if he returned to the bench during the game.
We need him vs TT!
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Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:34 am
Congrats to Machina who had been named a finalist for the BearDown Wildcats Self Promoter of the Year award
Well deserved!!!
The trophy presentation when his left hand passes it to his right hand??
Not a dry eye in his mom’s living room…
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
Thought I saw Townsend on the bench, celebrating, at the end of the game. Probably kept him out as a potential concussion protocol. I assume, if he passes a few tests, he should be good to go.
Townsend and ADO are who they are. You hope players like this have improved since high school enough to be a contributor on an Arizona, but sometimes they are just a little short. With that said, they are now at least giving 100% on defense. They have their limitations on D, and at the start of the year, they weren't balling all out on the defensive end. That's not the case now.
Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:13 am
I really think being in the Big 12 playing (and winning!) big game after big game is going to pay off come March
i still really miss the pac and walton and the regionality and all that, but must concede that no longer having asu as a travel partner is a 100% improvement. despite being in a deeper conference, i think our regular seasons will be much better without the baggage of asu.
Aside from the challenge and the raucous road environments, I really think it toughens us up for the tournament. The Pac-12 commissioners always took their lead from the presidents. Some favored schools (UCLA) didn't want an Arizona or a Colorado to be more physical with them than they already were. And the presidents were also incredibly risk averse. I really think they felt if they didn't hold the choke chain at the scruff of the neck with officiating, there would be some Kermit Washington/Rudy Tomjanovich moment and the whole league would be sued into oblivion. So players and coaches had to tip-toe around in most league games. Then they'd finally let them play a little more during the last few weeks and the Pac-12 Tournament to get ready for the NCAAs. But some teams didn't seem to get the memo, and it's hard to unlearn season-long habits in a handful of (still) inconsistently officiated games. In any event, while I think we're going to lose multiple road games down the stretch, which may discourage some, I'm very interested to see what we do this year in the NCAAs after our first Big XII trial by fire.
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-Norlander.
TheCatInTheHat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:25 pm
Aside from the challenge and the raucous road environments, I really think it toughens us up for the tournament. The Pac-12 commissioners always took their lead from the presidents. Some favored schools (UCLA) didn't want an Arizona or a Colorado to be more physical with them than they already were. And the presidents were also incredibly risk averse. I really think they felt if they didn't hold the choke chain at the scruff of the neck with officiating, there would be some Kermit Washington/Rudy Tomjanovich moment and the whole league would be sued into oblivion. So players and coaches had to tip-toe around in most league games. Then they'd finally let them play a little more during the last few weeks and the Pac-12 Tournament to get ready for the NCAAs. But some teams didn't seem to get the memo, and it's hard to unlearn season-long habits in a handful of (still) inconsistently officiated games. In any event, while I think we're going to lose multiple road games down the stretch, which may discourage some, I'm very interested to see what we do this year in the NCAAs after our first Big XII trial by fire.
Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:13 am
I really think being in the Big 12 playing (and winning!) big game after big game is going to pay off come March
i still really miss the pac and walton and the regionality and all that, but must concede that no longer having asu as a travel partner is a 100% improvement. despite being in a deeper conference, i think our regular seasons will be much better without the baggage of asu.
We were travel partners with asu for a good chunk of conference play this year
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We're the game of the day not just in the Big 12, but nationally, and ESPN possibly wants us on LATER?! Really hope what Scheer is hearing is wrong.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:29 am
Huge game Saturday between #7 and #9 in net. I really like Tech and the way they play. Their PG reminds me a lot of Eric Money
Hmmm. So you are saying he can't defend?
Or am I not supposed to reveal that secret code
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PHXCATS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:03 pm
Pretty crazy the team could lose the next 9 games and and be 500 in conference play…..
It's like Pac 12 2.0
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
-Norlander.
ADO is having issues getting good looks from 3. Maybe we need to run some set plays to get him cleaner looks. He still scares me when he dribbles, but he has been making some plays in the paint.
The officiating has been bad the last two games.
I don't have a huge issue with the Flagrant against Bradler but the moving screen should not have been rescinded and may have even caused the F1.
The stupidity against Love hurts my head to think about.
Alieberman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:34 am
Congrats to Machina who had been named a finalist for the BearDown Wildcats Self Promoter of the Year award
Well deserved!!!
The trophy presentation when his left hand passes it to his right hand??
Not a dry eye in his mom’s living room…
The trophy itself is his effigial blow-up sex doll on the cross.
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AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:21 pm
We're the game of the day not just in the Big 12, but nationally, and ESPN possibly wants us on LATER?! Really hope what Scheer is hearing is wrong.
AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:21 pm
We're the game of the day not just in the Big 12, but nationally, and ESPN possibly wants us on LATER?! Really hope what Scheer is hearing is wrong.
I have some bad news for you...
Good for me personally
But I remember hearing tipoff times would improve in the Big 12
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azcat49 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:29 am
Their PG reminds me a lot of Eric Money
Now who else here remembers Eric Money as a Wildcat? Not me! Do remember him as a Piston though as I was living in Michigan at the time.
Part of Snowden's Kiddie Korps. Back then you couldn't leave early for the NBA unless you had a financial hardship waiver, which he did.
Didn't remember that about hardship waivers. He was the real deal. Quick and nasty, good driver/passer/middle-man on the break, pretty good defender. Kind of a funky shot. Obviously good enough to play for the Pistons for a few years. Coniel Norman went hardship the same year, but didn't make it with the Sixers. He was kind of a poor man's Reggie Miller. Even without them, Snowden went to our first Elite Eight two years later. With them, they would have been a fairly serious contender.
Postmaster wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:39 pm
I don't have a huge issue with the Flagrant against Bradler but the moving screen should not have been rescinded and may have even caused the F1.
I do. Bradley wasn’t even looking at his so-called victim and the guy threw his shoulder into JB’s ribs. How they watched that in slow motion and decided JB was the aggressor can only be explained by some kind of effort at point shaving or a hallucinogenic substance.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
Wanted to add that Miya has Tommy and the UA staff as #1 in the NCAAs for transfer player production vs incoming expectations (since end of last season)!
Didn't remember that about hardship waivers. He was the real deal. Quick and nasty, good driver/passer/middle-man on the break, pretty good defender. Kind of a funky shot. Obviously good enough to play for the Pistons for a few years. Coniel Norman went hardship the same year, but didn't make it with the Sixers. He was kind of a poor man's Reggie Miller. Even without them, Snowden went to our first Elite Eight two years later. With them, they would have been a fairly serious contender.
Postmaster wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:39 pm
I don't have a huge issue with the Flagrant against Bradler but the moving screen should not have been rescinded and may have even caused the F1.
I do. Bradley wasn’t even looking at his so-called victim and the guy threw his shoulder into JB’s ribs. How they watched that in slow motion and decided JB was the aggressor can only be explained by some kind of effort at point shaving or a hallucinogenic substance.
My understanding is that the F1 doesn't require intent. Elbow to neck or head falls under F1 I believe.
That's why I wasn't angry about the call.
Like I mentioned, the illegal screen may have caused the wayward elbow.
Taking away the illegal screen call was ridiculous and I didn't even know you could take away the foul during a review for something else.
Then they need to re-examine the rule. Launching yourself into someone’s upraised arm shouldn’t result in free throws and the ball.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
Didn't remember that about hardship waivers. He was the real deal. Quick and nasty, good driver/passer/middle-man on the break, pretty good defender. Kind of a funky shot. Obviously good enough to play for the Pistons for a few years. Coniel Norman went hardship the same year, but didn't make it with the Sixers. He was kind of a poor man's Reggie Miller. Even without them, Snowden went to our first Elite Eight two years later. With them, they would have been a fairly serious contender.
I disagree about Money's defence. Back in the day the mantra was that fEric Money can penetrative a brick wall; but he can't defend a fence post.
I'll grant you he wasn't always, or even often, interested. (Exhibit A: the infamous 106-121 loss at Utah.) In those days, Snowden sometimes let them shrug off uncontested layups and try to sling it coast-to-coast, beat them back to the other end, and win those exchanges over the long haul. (I don't recommend it.) But there were also some lower-scoring games against UTEP and other close games where some defense was necessary. He was tough and very quick with long arms, and he could be pretty effective at pressuring the ball on those occasions. But you're right that Snowden didn't generally require it in those days, and regardless of ability, it wasn't Money's focus.
PHXCATS wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:43 am
Arizona is a very good team
Just taking some time to gel and some bad luck
Adjusted offense and adjusted defense are good and they are a top team with those combined
As far as the agendas go, there is obviously more behind the scenes than we know in terms of Byrant's playing time
Arizona will be fine. They will win lots of games going forward and they will make the tournament
As i said
No one here knows less than this person about Arizona basketball, basketball more generally, and the world.
But, and never forget this, everyone on the planet is obsessed with him.
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I looked at the box score from the first Texas Tech game and it was terrible. We couldn't hit a shot although Carter had a great scoring game compared to the rest of the team. Tobey only took 5 shots but had 14 rebounds. TT looks good but they are beatable. TT did not score at a high rate % wise. I think we just let go of the rope with about 4 mins left if I recall correctly. Panicked a bit and jacked up bad shots.
Yeah the worst thing about the TT game was how we just gave up at the end. It was actually a winnable game until then. Part of why the way we put BYU away was so encouraging.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
AZCatGirl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:21 pm
We're the game of the day not just in the Big 12, but nationally, and ESPN possibly wants us on LATER?! Really hope what Scheer is hearing is wrong.
I have some bad news for you...
Since it was on the ESPN site not exactly a scoop.
