Sean Miller

[CalStateTempe]

lol - miller lost his edge, cheating is legal now.

That about sums up East coast tough guy miller and his mid major schemes

[TheCat]

Winger, would love to hear you expand on your thoughts on Miller and what Luke (who is an idiot in my book) is talking about in his tweet

This may end up being a wall of text, will try to keep it brevis.

Sean Miller is a good basketball coach. He isn’t a great basketball coach. Texas heretofore has been a good basketball program, not a great basketball program. For Sean Miller to “kill it” at Texas both things would have to change, and both of those changes are very difficult to accomplish. Further when it comes to Miller’s recruiting, folks tend to remember the glossy highs and forget all his whiffs (at Arizona, which were myriad). I agree with texas Fan who was nonplussed with the hire because “Miller has lost his advantage, cheating is legal now”. Lastly, at the highest level, college basketball is a little bit more predicated on elite offense than it is defense, and Miller is a defense and accountability first coach.

Also, unrelated to Miller, is the fact that there are a few established elite programs in the SEC with elite coaches who stand in way of Texas killing it.

FTR OTOS, shortly after he was hired, I questioned those that posted that Miller would kill it at X. Told them that things had changed materially and that I’d be surprised if that ended up coming true. I was one of the more “anti-Sean Miller” Arizona fans so I have bias here.

Luke and Gimino are making the “overall tempo” fallacy when it comes to looking at whether or not a coach coaches “fast” or “slow”.

If you want to know the answer to this question you need to know/do a couple things:

1. Completely ignore overall tempo, because it is a distraction in this context.
2. Look at both offensive and defensive average possession length.
3. Look at the quality of a teams’/coach’s defense.

Because: overall tempo is a combination of offensive and defensive possession length; and: just about all good defenses are “slow” (or have a long average possession length). If you have a good defense your overall tempo (offense + defense) is going to be slower than if you have a bad defense. It is nary impossible to coach a very good and very fast defense.

All the coaches with good defenses will also have slow defenses, and accordingly the overall tempo for these coaches is going to be slower and, in a way, have nothing at all to do with how “fast they coach”.

Also, there is no correlation between adjusted offensive efficiency (how good your offense is) and average offensive possession length (offensive tempo). There are good offenses that are fast and there are good offenses that are slow, and vice versa.

Make sense?

A take using overall tempo is lazy and, worse, is likely to be erroneous.

Surprised that is your take when it fact he accomplished your elite eight tournament run a couple of times, conference championships and top ten finish that you require to be successful on a semi quasi blue blood program.

Well I'm sure your advanced analysis is beyond reproach but I have seen them with my own eyes and he has changed. You might want to watch his Texas introduction presser where he was referred to by the media as an "Offensive coach" to which he replied that a few years ago it would have been the opposite. Or something as simple as Xavier is the best team in the Big East scoring 15.2 fast break points per game. But I'm sure there are many reasons that doesn't mean anything. Same old walk it up Sean.

Part of the issue with X was Sean was losing his best player/players yearly because a lack of NIL. He now has the NIL to compete with the big boys. There are some good coaches in the SEC but I think that is to be expected anywhere the money is and the activity/drive of a good commissioner to expand their footprint in basketball.

I don't recall if I said he was going to kill it at Xavier or not but I surely expected him to be successful. I think he was successful and since 2022 Xavier was 4-5 against everyone's darling UCONN. Better than any other program. Of course he did not reach your definition of success as he did not take them to a top 10 finish or elite eights. I think he maximized the talent he had and we will see how he does in the future at Texas.

Wasn't Texas the place where Lute said was a sleeping giant?

[pc in NM]

Sean Miller + University of Texas + Texas boosters + Texas Tech breaking the NIL bank + Texas fans pride and $$$$ = scary situation for the rest of college basketball!!!

I liked Sean when he was here; gave us some great seasons and memories, and has never dissed Arizona...

... Of course I'm gonna wish him well and cheer him from afar!!

[TheCat]

As long as it isn't against Arizona I hope he wins everything. Wont next year but in two years I think they will be formattable.

[BBQ wildcat]

I wish CSM all the best. I hope he gets to the final 4. Beating Dook to get there would also be good.