Stanley Johnson

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:09 am

Interesting pictures. Brandon Ashley appears to be wide open in both of them.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:14 am

Excellent production on the glass is a constant with Stanley. Even when he can't make a shot (4-28 against Utah and UCLA) he gets the job done on the glass. That part of his game is underappreciated. Even being benched, frankly, last year we couldn't afford to bench people for mistakes. The deeper team this year, we can.

We need better in the tourney, but getting all over Stanley for the poor shooting is a little harsh, imo.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:28 am

PHXCATS wrote:Interesting indeed but I think the number is a little inflated for Stanley with the put back misses on Saturday

Exactly. And how many was he fouled on and didn't get the call?

Sportswriters who write bullshit based on boxscores are awful at their job.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:35 am

It's greg hanson, why would anybody be surprised? Dude knows jack shit about sports, was never good at sports and for whatever reason, thinks using his pen makes him important like all of the athletes he wishes he was. He's a nerd. Whoever has been responsible for giving him a job anywhere outside of Logan, Utah, or any other small town can rot. F his dork son too.

ZONACAT · Post by **ZONACAT** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:43 am

Stanley Johnson is No. 3 in kPOY. Okafor is 6th.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:47 am

Stanley Johnson might just be the best player in America.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:24 am

97cats wrote:Stanley Johnson might just be the best player in America.

Sorry man but the best player in America does not get benched for the right reasons at the ends of close games when the conference title is on the line

Airizona · Post by **Airizona** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:26 am

PHXCATS wrote:
97cats wrote:Stanley Johnson might just be the best player in America.

Sorry man but the best player in America does not get benched for the right reasons at the ends of close games when the conference title is on the line

He does if he plays for Sean Miller and gets lazy on defense for a play.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:29 am

Airizona wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
97cats wrote:Stanley Johnson might just be the best player in America.

Sorry man but the best player in America does not get benched for the right reasons at the ends of close games when the conference title is on the line
He does if he plays for Sean Miller and gets lazy on defense for a play.

Exactly....the best player in America does not play lazy on d in close games with so much on the line.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:30 am

There's a difference between being the best and playing the best at any given moment.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:02 pm

KaibabKat wrote:Interesting pictures. Brandon Ashley appears to be wide open in both of them.

It's official, KaibabKat has gone full retard on us!

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:46 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Airizona wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
97cats wrote:Stanley Johnson might just be the best player in America.

Sorry man but the best player in America does not get benched for the right reasons at the ends of close games when the conference title is on the line
He does if he plays for Sean Miller and gets lazy on defense for a play.
Exactly....the best player in America does not play lazy on d in close games with so much on the line.

Not sure I should enter this debate but no one is saying he's Michael Jordan. He made a mistake late against Utah, on top of shooting poorly & making multiple decisions during the game that weren't optimal.

That doesn't mean he's not the best college player in America. Kamisky & Okafor are obvious choices but Stanley has a legit shot at having the most successful professional career of any Arizona player ever. I honestly don't think that statement is hyperbole. If it's not - think about that for a second. That's silly.

Stan is close to the best college player in America right now & I actually think he's the basketball player people will still be talking about the most 5 & 10 years from now assuming he stays healthy & continues his trajectory.

To make a board analogy - his ceiling is fairly damn high.

Airizona · Post by **Airizona** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:57 pm

To say someone isn't the best because of one play is a little ridiculous. There are plays that you could look up of any great player that would make you scratch your head... everyone has bad plays (especially freshman). Stan's body of work so far this season speaks for itself

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:03 pm

Chicat wrote:There's a difference between being the best and playing the best at any given moment.

This.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:03 pm

Stanley Johnson might just be the best player in America.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:40 pm

Well, when you put it that way. ...

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:42 pm

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:21 pm

Airizona wrote:To say someone isn't the best because of one play is a little ridiculous. There are plays that you could look up of any great player that would make you scratch your head... everyone has bad plays (especially freshman). Stan's body of work so far this season speaks for itself

It was a lot more than one play this season

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:22 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Airizona wrote:To say someone isn't the best because of one play is a little ridiculous. There are plays that you could look up of any great player that would make you scratch your head... everyone has bad plays (especially freshman). Stan's body of work so far this season speaks for itself
It was a lot more than one play this season

I don't get this dislike of Stanley. Look back to last year, as good as RHJ and AG were, they had games where they couldn't throw the ball in the ocean and weren't guarded from 15 feet. They made defensive errors.

Okafor leads a Duke D that can hemhhorage points. It happens. Stanley has been excellent, period.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:26 pm

We had bashing like this for AG last year until he started going HAM late in the year. Guessing people like to look for little reasons to treat star one and dones as whipping boys. Like they read these boards and it will humble them or something...

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:42 pm

rgdeuce wrote:We had bashing like this for AG last year until he started going HAM late in the year. Guessing people like to look for little reasons to treat star one and dones as whipping boys. Like they read these boards and it will humble them or something...

I'm sure when Stan goes top 5, he will always feel a little unfulfilled because PHXCATS did not approve of his performance.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:47 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Airizona wrote:To say someone isn't the best because of one play is a little ridiculous. There are plays that you could look up of any great player that would make you scratch your head... everyone has bad plays (especially freshman). Stan's body of work so far this season speaks for itself
It was a lot more than one play this season
I don't get this dislike of Stanley. Look back to last year, as good as RHJ and AG were, they had games where they couldn't throw the ball in the ocean and weren't guarded from 15 feet. They made defensive errors.

Okafor leads a Duke D that can hemhhorage points. It happens. Stanley has been excellent, period.

There aren't just two choices:

1. May be the best.
2. Dislike.

Think people are just pushing back against No. 1, which doesn't require disliking him.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:54 pm

Show me another Freshman that has the body control and ability to finish in traffic like Stanley, and I will call you a liar.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:04 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Airizona wrote:To say someone isn't the best because of one play is a little ridiculous. There are plays that you could look up of any great player that would make you scratch your head... everyone has bad plays (especially freshman). Stan's body of work so far this season speaks for itself
It was a lot more than one play this season
I don't get this dislike of Stanley. Look back to last year, as good as RHJ and AG were, they had games where they couldn't throw the ball in the ocean and weren't guarded from 15 feet. They made defensive errors.

Okafor leads a Duke D that can hemhhorage points. It happens. Stanley has been excellent, period.

I don't dislike Stanley. But I do believe him not trying hard all the time prevents me from calling him the best in the nation.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:13 pm

Okafor and Kaminsky wish they had half of Stanley's defense.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:32 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Airizona wrote:To say someone isn't the best because of one play is a little ridiculous. There are plays that you could look up of any great player that would make you scratch your head... everyone has bad plays (especially freshman). Stan's body of work so far this season speaks for itself
It was a lot more than one play this season
I don't get this dislike of Stanley. Look back to last year, as good as RHJ and AG were, they had games where they couldn't throw the ball in the ocean and weren't guarded from 15 feet. They made defensive errors.

Okafor leads a Duke D that can hemhhorage points. It happens. Stanley has been excellent, period.
I don't dislike Stanley. But I do believe him not trying hard all the time prevents me from calling him the best in the nation.

I see more mental lapses than simply not trying, and I see way way more positive plays than negative ones.

Stanley Johnson's biggest fault is overconfidence. He actually reminds me of Kobe Bryant during his rookie season. Immensely talented but not always sure when and how to apply that talent.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:59 pm

I harp on rebounds in poor shooting games because that measures a player's motor more than any other. How hard does he pursue the ball when things are going poorly. Just about every freshman has an adjustment period from acceptable intensity hs vs college. Things like missing assignments aren't lazy, they're youth.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:59 am

Are you ready to be outraged?

http://espn.go.com/ncb/notebook/_/page/ ... pot-sealed

Not in the top 17, eh? Interesting theory.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:00 am

It's Eamonn Brennan, dude.

PennZona20 · Post by **PennZona20** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:28 am

Hes not wrong at the top. Frank Kaminsky, without a doubt, is the best COLLEGE hoops player in the country. Its not close.

His usage rate and efficiency rating is almost McDermott-esque. And hes doing it on a top 5 team in the country. Hes a great college rebounder, his D is miles better than it was last year (he actually blocks shots), and they run the O thru him as his assist #s indicate. All while playing in a tempo that averages less than 60 possessions per game.

Plus they lost to Rutgers without him!!!!!! Rutgers makes unlv look like Kentucky.

Arizona fans should know better than most, kids a beast.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:41 am

PennZona20 wrote:Hes not wrong at the top. Frank Kaminsky, without a doubt, is the best COLLEGE hoops player in the country. Its not close.

His usage rate and efficiency rating is almost McDermott-esque. And hes doing it on a top 5 team in the country. Hes a great college rebounder, his D is miles better than it was last year (he actually blocks shots), and they run the O thru him as his assist #s indicate. All while playing in a tempo that averages less than 60 possessions per game.

Plus they lost to Rutgers without him!!!!!! Rutgers makes unlv look like Kentucky.

Arizona fans should know better than most, kids a beast.

Kaminsky's great.

I'm pretty sure though, if I was writing the article, I'd have Stanley in the top 17 players in the country. But apparently Eammon doesn't agree.

EDIT-LOL did Stanley just get edited in?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:52 am

Agree with Kaminsky choice, and love the Noonan reference. It's T.J. who got slighted.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:58 am

SCCats wrote:Are you ready to be outraged?

http://espn.go.com/ncb/notebook/_/page/ ... pot-sealed

Not in the top 17, eh? Interesting theory.

I'm more offended that he would have bet his rent check Utah beat us on Saturday. We were ranked higher for goodness sakes. We get no respect this year, and it's weird. For sharting out a few subpar performances against weaker teams, we have come to win in big games and flat out rolled most of the Pac.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:39 pm

Stanley is one of the main reasons what happened vs. Wisconsin in the Elite 8, what happened vs. UConn in the Elite 8 and what happened to us vs. Ohio State isn't going to happen this year. He may be the best college player in America and we may just break the drought because of his offensive ability this year....finally...

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:45 am

Don't know how you can push Stanley for NPOY while pushing TJ for Pac POY. Doesn't make much sense. TJ is the most valuable player on the team so far without much doubt, so how could Stanley be in the national conversation over TJ?

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:20 am

Puerco wrote:Don't know how you can push Stanley for NPOY while pushing TJ for Pac POY. Doesn't make much sense. TJ is the most valuable player on the team so far without much doubt, so how could Stanley be in the national conversation over TJ?

because NPOY is about #'s. That's about it. People talking about that have probably seen us play 3 times this year

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:25 am

Delon Wright isn't the third best player in the country no matter how you slice it either....

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:35 am

Arizona has three players who can and have shut down Delon Wright.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:13 am

I hope Stanley puts up huge numbers today. He's due... 20/10

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:41 pm

...is not a Wooden Finalist.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:24 pm

It's hilarious we don't have one guy as a finalist

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:33 pm

KaibabKat wrote:...is not a Wooden Finalist.

He's going to be drafted about fourth but isn't one of the top 15 players in the nation?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:36 pm

rgdeuce wrote:It's hilarious we don't have one guy as a finalist

We are balanced.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:43 pm

Very balanced. It has become that way even more the past 8 games. Never know who will lead in scoring.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:50 pm

I know that, but so is Kentucky

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:39 pm

Zero wrote:Very balanced. It has become that way even more the past 8 games. Never know who will lead in scoring.

Seems like we always have 4-5 guys with 9-14 points

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:40 am

rgdeuce wrote:I know that, but so is Kentucky

But Kentucky is the undefeated blue blood who plays when sportswriters are still awake.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:08 am

ASUHATER! wrote:
Zero wrote:Very balanced. It has become that way even more the past 8 games. Never know who will lead in scoring.
Seems like we always have 4-5 guys with 9-14 points

The Sean Miller way. I like the balance.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:28 pm

Tablet suggests St. Animal for Stanimal. I like it!

Anyway, love his pull-up game. Among the things that sets him apart.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:42 am

His pull up jumpers against Stanford had NBA written all over him

Also his block reminded me of another block we had against Stanford from just a couple years ago

Ok nothing will really ever top this one...RJ!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exH_fnZ_j7o

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