Bear Down Wildcats

Chicat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:47 pm

RJ's fairly correct that Robbins's hiring processes are all about settling on his predetermined favorite under the illusion of a process.

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:58 pm

Chicat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:47 pm

RJ's fairly correct that Robbins's hiring processes are all about settling on his predetermined favorite under the illusion of a process.

That's the Ashford deal in a nutshell.

Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:00 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:58 pm

Chicat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:47 pm

RJ's fairly correct that Robbins's hiring processes are all about settling on his predetermined favorite under the illusion of a process.

That's the Ashford deal in a nutshell.

That's Robbins whole tenure in a nutshell. If you asked me for a defining word to sum his tenure up, it would be cronyism. Maybe hubris as a second word.

RJ is 100%

Love him

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:06 pm
That's Robbins whole tenure in a nutshell. If you asked me for a defining word to sum his tenure up, it would be cronyism. Maybe hubris as a second word.

And narcissism. This press conference is about to start, and it's worth noting that the traditional place of a university president in this is to be in the audience while the AD is at the table, followed by a photo where the president sheepishly agrees to come into the frame. Let's see how ours does.

Alieberman wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:11 pm RJ is 100%

Love him

Pretty unedited, huh? That's what you get to do when you can legitimately say, "I built that."

There is an intersection in what happened and what it looks like what happened. And maybe that's not just a coincidence.

What I think happened: Robbins wanted Lloyd all along, waited for him to be done with the tourney, fired Miller, hired Lloyd. Then realized it's a State position and he has to interview people. Interviewed people he had no intention of hiring.

What it looks like what happened: the university offered two white guys, Musselman and then Lloyd, and pretended to interview the black candidates and Pastner, and hoped to make the narrative about Alumni instead of Race by including Pastner.


Whether it's cronyism or racism or just one guy deciding he's the decider and the rules are for other people, it doesn't matter. Arguably it's all three.

Even if it's not over racism, why is it when they already got their guy in mind that's usually a white guy? Maybe it's not racism in this instance, but add up all of these and you get a statistics that looks a lot like institutional racism.

It's an issue of "I didn't hire him because he's white, I hired him because he's my friend, but all my friends are white, so if I hire my friends they're going to be white." Maybe that's not racism in intent, but it has almost the same effect.

I don't think Robbins dismissed Simon and Terry and Stoudamire because he's racist, I think he did it because he's an narcissist asshole who thinks he's king of Arizona, but it's arguably the same effect even if it's a different motivation. That's why they have rules about how coaching searches happen at state universities.

Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:14 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:06 pm
That's Robbins whole tenure in a nutshell. If you asked me for a defining word to sum his tenure up, it would be cronyism. Maybe hubris as a second word.

And narcissism. This press conference is about to start, and it's worth noting that the traditional place of a university president in this is to be in the audience while the AD is at the table, followed by a photo where the president sheepishly agrees to come into the frame. Let's see how ours does.

Any word that describes an excess of ego, an inability to look in the mirror, an insecurity complex that requires others to prostrate themselves before him and a complete disregard for merit based hiring or pay is one I can support when it comes to Robbins.

Assclown?

azpatnca wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:19 pmEven if it's not over racism, why is it when they already got their guy in mind that's usually a white guy? Maybe it's not racism in this instance, but add up all of these and you get a statistics that looks a lot like institutional racism.

Robbins hired Sumlin, no? Or was Sumlin not Robbins "guy"? I have a hard time thinking Robbins would hire anyone who isn't his guy...

Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:14 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:06 pm
That's Robbins whole tenure in a nutshell. If you asked me for a defining word to sum his tenure up, it would be cronyism. Maybe hubris as a second word.

And narcissism. This press conference is about to start, and it's worth noting that the traditional place of a university president in this is to be in the audience while the AD is at the table, followed by a photo where the president sheepishly agrees to come into the frame. Let's see how ours does.

Robbins front and center at the table!

Alieberman wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:38 pm

Longhorned wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:14 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:06 pm
That's Robbins whole tenure in a nutshell. If you asked me for a defining word to sum his tenure up, it would be cronyism. Maybe hubris as a second word.

And narcissism. This press conference is about to start, and it's worth noting that the traditional place of a university president in this is to be in the audience while the AD is at the table, followed by a photo where the president sheepishly agrees to come into the frame. Let's see how ours does.

Robbins front and center at the table!

Portrait like this hung to commemorate Robbins taking the bull by the horns in this firing/hiring process?

Robbins asking what # in the draft Aari went? (draft is tonight)

Robbins mispronounced Aari’s name. Lmao

He’s going to announce Heeke.

Fuck that clown.

What a jerk.

Robbins making Lloyd's kids do his work. I know that was supposed to be a joke, but I can honestly believe it.

Also he can fuck off with that whole "restoring Arizona Basketball to greatness" bullshit. That's exactly what Miller was doing you disrespectful asshole.

Robbins trying to claim Lute is watching and approving of the fucking clownshow that robbins has created.

get the FUCK OUTTA HERE with that

::::err heeke i guess. fuck them both still.

PieceOfMeat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:45 pm Robbins trying to claim Lute is watching and approving of the fucking clownshow that robbins has created.

get the FUCK OUTTA HERE with that

Robbins needs to get Lute's name out of his mouth.

It's hard to watch these clowns speak. Just get to Tommy and then hopefully the Q&A rips into the other stooges.

PieceOfMeat wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:45 pm Robbins trying to claim Lute is watching and approving of the fucking clownshow that robbins has created.

get the FUCK OUTTA HERE with that

It kills me to hear them say "Bear Down" (which they say WAAAAAY too often)

Oh man Bobby can spew some Bull shit when he wants

AZCatGirl wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:44 pm Robbins making Lloyd's kids do his work. I know that was supposed to be a joke, but I can honestly believe it.

Also he can fuck off with that whole "restoring Arizona Basketball to greatness" bullshit. That's exactly what Miller was doing you disrespectful asshole.

100. We had a top 15 returning roster that may no longer exist due to Robbins's BS.

Okay enough with the stupid pictures. Let me the man speak.

Why do we pay first year coaches so much? Maybe an excuse can be made for Lloyd, but no one was hiring Jedd Fisch for a JC job for shit.

I do believe Lloyd when he says this is the only place past the zags he would coach at

Tommy's already crying..... damn it Tommy.... I'm trying to dislike you

Well you can tell Few really means the world to him. I like how sincere this guy is.

It's real white in there.

He certainly comes off as a down to earth good guy. I can see why Gonzaga fans were so high on him.

Nice that he mentions Miller and that he will reach out to him which of course is SOP. Wait until you see us in Vegas

Using Sean as a mentor? Tommy certainly knows all the right things to say.

Good on you Tommy. Love hearing the Miller stuff.

He definitely is winning the press conference. Very impressed.

He gets it.

Might have mentioned the players and thanked the two assistants for working with the players during the transition.

I was very impressed with Lloyd!

Tommy was very emotional.

That was cool.

Thought he did great, was nervous and emotional, been there speaking before so I know that feeling.

Yeah I really like him so far. Just hope he can do as well on the court.

Seeming much more comfortable here behind the mic answering questions about basketball rather than talking about this transition - which is clearly an incredibly meaningful and emotional moment for him.

YoDeFoe wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:05 pm Seeming much more comfortable here behind the mic answering questions about basketball rather than talking about this transition - which is clearly an incredibly meaningful and emotional moment for him.

Was gonna say same, much more better talking basketball vs all other stuff.

For all those years while Lute grew older the thought was we would make a run at Mark Few and get the Gonzaga coach and here we are many years later and we have a Gonzaga coach. Seems a little like it was destiny

It hurts changing the guard from us and UCLA being premier program of the West to Gonzaga, but cool to hear Few and the Gonzaga AD have the same reverence for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-wtZc6qy8s

Welcome Men’s Basketball Head Coach Tommy Lloyd

Columbo asks the 1M question that we all know the answer to

azcat49 wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:12 pm Columbo asks the 1M question that we all know the answer to

And Heeke is somehow entirely unprepared to answer it. Fool

Arizona has always been the benchmark for Gonzaga, the gold standard of the West Coast through Gonzaga's eyes.

what Lloyd helped build at Gonzaga was created on the blueprint Arizona had already written.

Lloyd knows the potential at Arizona is considerably more than at Gonzaga, and if he follows the same blueprint in Tucson that he put in motion 20years ago in Spokane, the returns at Arizona will be double in half the time.

that is why Tommy Lloyd would only leave Gonzaga for Arizona, the only reason.

Heeke not liking the questions.

Hahahahahahahaha Pascoe

Hahaha. Heeke has to answer the NCAA questions and he gets pissy.