Bear Down Wildcats

Knowing our luck we'll beat Wichita St and UNLV will beat Michigan.

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:20 am Not sure how many wins, in these first couple months, Tommy needs to reach a consensus of "he's off to a great start," but when we do lose some games, I hope the vibe here remains positive and supportive, which is what I'm finding this morning.

Like gosling said, this is the most excited I've been about the team since '19.

Why worry about that?

I think you’re mistaking curiosity for pessimism.
Most here tabbed this as a possible sweet sixteen team prior to CSM’s firing (and the personnel changes that came with it) so it’s natural to wonder whether the team is truly still that good or if it’s the competition we’ve played. I hope it’s the former and that we are back to kicking ass. If we are 11-3/12-2 going into the New Year that should have everyone sitting up and taking notice.

Chicat wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:56 am Hung out with my best friend from college all day Saturday.

About 4 hours into hanging out all of a sudden he said, “Do you realize we haven’t talked once about Arizona Basketball??”

He was right. Because there was really nothing to say. No excitement for the new regime. No anticipation of what the returning players will do. Not even a wonder if we’ll be any good.

In past years we’ve talked Arizona hoops for literally hours. This year, beyond the surprise that neither of us seem to care all that much right now, and some observations that Robbins and Heeke may not have killed our love for the program but they certainly put it in a coma, we just moved on to other topics.

Congrats to the Arizona Admin for fucking up to the degree that two diehards are now just occasionally casually interested … maybe.

Are you and your bestie interested in AZ hoops again yet?

All good, Chi. The last couple years strained enthusiasm for many. Here's hoping yours has returned.

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:49 am

Chicat wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:56 am Hung out with my best friend from college all day Saturday.

About 4 hours into hanging out all of a sudden he said, “Do you realize we haven’t talked once about Arizona Basketball??”

He was right. Because there was really nothing to say. No excitement for the new regime. No anticipation of what the returning players will do. Not even a wonder if we’ll be any good.

In past years we’ve talked Arizona hoops for literally hours. This year, beyond the surprise that neither of us seem to care all that much right now, and some observations that Robbins and Heeke may not have killed our love for the program but they certainly put it in a coma, we just moved on to other topics.

Congrats to the Arizona Admin for fucking up to the degree that two diehards are now just occasionally casually interested … maybe.

Are you and your bestie interested in AZ hoops again yet?

All good, Chi. The last couple years strained enthusiasm for many. Here's hoping yours has returned.

We talked between the NAU & UTRGV games. UA basketball didn’t come up from what I remember, but we did chat a little Arizona Football.

Chicat wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:52 am

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:49 am

Chicat wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:56 am Hung out with my best friend from college all day Saturday.

About 4 hours into hanging out all of a sudden he said, “Do you realize we haven’t talked once about Arizona Basketball??”

He was right. Because there was really nothing to say. No excitement for the new regime. No anticipation of what the returning players will do. Not even a wonder if we’ll be any good.

In past years we’ve talked Arizona hoops for literally hours. This year, beyond the surprise that neither of us seem to care all that much right now, and some observations that Robbins and Heeke may not have killed our love for the program but they certainly put it in a coma, we just moved on to other topics.

Congrats to the Arizona Admin for fucking up to the degree that two diehards are now just occasionally casually interested … maybe.

Are you and your bestie interested in AZ hoops again yet?

All good, Chi. The last couple years strained enthusiasm for many. Here's hoping yours has returned.

We talked between the NAU & UTRGV games. UA basketball didn’t come up from what I remember, but we did chat a little Arizona Football.

I mean, AZ Football has always been our flagship athletic program.

azgreg wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:33 am Knowing our luck we'll beat Wichita St and UNLV will beat Michigan.

Don't think so. Pretty sure that BYU loss is going to wake that team up. Michigan is good. It's just early in the season.

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:02 pm

azgreg wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:33 am Knowing our luck we'll beat Wichita St and UNLV will beat Michigan.

Don't think so. Pretty sure that BYU loss is going to wake that team up. Michigan is good. It's just early in the season.

BYU pounded Oregon by almost 40 in Eugene.
Seton Hall won by 2 vs Michigan in Ann Arbor.

IndianaZonaFan wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:25 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:02 pm

azgreg wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:33 am Knowing our luck we'll beat Wichita St and UNLV will beat Michigan.

Don't think so. Pretty sure that BYU loss is going to wake that team up. Michigan is good. It's just early in the season.

BYU pounded Oregon by almost 40 in Eugene.
Seton Hall won by 2 vs Michigan in Ann Arbor.

No idea what's up with Oregon, but if anyone thinks the Ducks are going to be losing games in their home state by 30+ in Feb/March, I've got a bridge to sell you.

I'm guessing Seton Hall is a little better than expected, and that Michigan is a little slower than expected out of the gate.

Like most, I'm hoping we can get a good win vs. Wichita and then play Michigan on Saturday. Still feel like that's our best possible outcome in Vegas (plus a W over Michigan, of course).

I think the second game is on Sunday, that right?

TheCat wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:45 pm I think the second game is on Sunday, that right?

Correct

TheCat wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:45 pm I think the second game is on Sunday, that right?

http://romanmainevent.com/#!/bracket

Chicat wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:51 am

ChooChooCat wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:57 am

Catintheheat wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:37 am

Chicat wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:32 am Not sure that I would exactly call NDSU a cupcake but that day-long bus ride from Vegas and playing two games in two nights did them absolutely no favors. My hope is they get their PG back and roll their conference.

I am very curious to see this team in a real dogfight. We have had some lulls on offense that we’ve so far been able to make up for with stifling defense. I want to see us do that against teams that are more athletic and talented.

NDSU just lost their starting PG who had surgery. That didn't help. IMO, if NDSU was rested and healthy, and played on a neutral floor, the score would be closer to a 20 point win.

I love how much we continue to underestimate our own favorite team.

Predicting a 20 point win against a fringe top-100 team is underestimating the Cats?

I mean they did just beat the team in question by over 50 points, so...yes?

Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:40 pm

KaibabKat wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:13 pm Pac 12 Teams - Highest rated OOC home opponents 2021:
6 Baylor vs. Oregon
8 Villanova vs. UCLA
9 Tennessee vs. Colorado
31 San Francisco vs. Tempe Normal
39 BYU vs. Utah
73 Boise State vs. WSU
79 Texas A&M vs. OSU
107 Santa Clara vs. California
112 UC Irvine vs. USC
127 North Dakota State vs. Arizona
148 Wyoming vs. Washington
217 Tarleton State vs. Stanford

Ouch. Gonna put a little trust in Tommy that he'll fix this. We've never had a hard time scheduling big time OOC opponents. Getting them at McKale is a little harder.

COVID has a lot to do with it. We were supposed to be done with our home and home with Illinois last year. So that game this year should be a home game vs a big team, but we had to honor our contract and therefore it's now a road game against a big team. The Zaga game was going to be a road game regardless and all Tennessee had room for was a home game, so here we are.

You all see the crap on the uapointguardu Instagram? Back from the dead

Headed to Vegas this morning!
Only been to a handful of games, but I've never seen them lose in person. So let's hope we continue that trend!

phxcat23 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:59 pm You all see the crap on the uapointguardu Instagram? Back from the dead

Are you talking about the $55,000 ticket to win?

Ace Thakore must have a micro penis.

We can talk about it here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2402

phxcat23 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:59 pm You all see the crap on the uapointguardu Instagram? Back from the dead

What is uapointguardu? Sorry, late to the party, I guess.

We're #1 - in the latest Massey (not composite) ratings - thru games of 17 November:
1. Arizona
2. Seton Hall
3. Gonzaga
4. Baylor
5. UCLA

9. USC
22. Colorado
29. Utah
41. Oregon
53. WSU
77. Stanford
79. ntOSU
118. Tempe Normal
138. Cal
143. UW

When was the last time we were #1 in any poll/ranking?

I think our football team recently reached a #1 ranking in something...

Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:26 am

phxcat23 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:59 pm You all see the crap on the uapointguardu Instagram? Back from the dead

What is uapointguardu? Sorry, late to the party, I guess.

https://www.instagram.com/uapointguardu/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/295 ... p-freshmen

Things not off to a good start for Tyty in Lexington.

Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:05 pm https://bleacherreport.com/articles/295 ... p-freshmen

Things not off to a good start for Tyty in Lexington.

Kerr outplaying TyTy and Aiken outplaying Kaluma

ChooChooCat wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:35 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:40 pm

KaibabKat wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:13 pm Pac 12 Teams - Highest rated OOC home opponents 2021:
6 Baylor vs. Oregon
8 Villanova vs. UCLA
9 Tennessee vs. Colorado
31 San Francisco vs. Tempe Normal
39 BYU vs. Utah
73 Boise State vs. WSU
79 Texas A&M vs. OSU
107 Santa Clara vs. California
112 UC Irvine vs. USC
127 North Dakota State vs. Arizona
148 Wyoming vs. Washington
217 Tarleton State vs. Stanford

Ouch. Gonna put a little trust in Tommy that he'll fix this. We've never had a hard time scheduling big time OOC opponents. Getting them at McKale is a little harder.

COVID has a lot to do with it. We were supposed to be done with our home and home with Illinois last year. So that game this year should be a home game vs a big team, but we had to honor our contract and therefore it's now a road game against a big team. The Zaga game was going to be a road game regardless and all Tennessee had room for was a home game, so here we are.

It's great for fans, of course, and we did just have Gonzaga and Illinois here in our last normal season, but I'm not sure why "highest rated home opponent" is even a stat, considering it's much harder to win neutral or on the road against a tough opponent, and we have Illinois and Tennessee on the road, and WSU and possibly Michigan in neutral site games.

And, yeah...to the 2nd post, we have had a hard time scheduling big time OOC opponents for home games for a while, now. The biggest, baddest programs don't typically go on the road unless it is a recruiting hotbed or forced by conference alliances...they play neutrals. Take the 5 best programs not named Gonzaga in any year the last decade and see how many times they travelled to play another power on their own scheduling...there will be trips to play UCLA and other recruiting hotbeds sprinkled in there, but most major programs play one, maybe two, true road games per OOC schedule

YoDeFoe wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:29 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:05 pm https://bleacherreport.com/articles/295 ... p-freshmen

Things not off to a good start for Tyty in Lexington.

Kerr outplaying TyTy and Aiken outplaying Kaluma

Makes me wonder if Tyty would even be getting many minutes for us, had he chosen the right Wildcats.

Granted, it's early in the season.

I love our backcourt. Kinda crazy to think it almost included Tyty and Akinjo.

Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:01 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:29 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:05 pm https://bleacherreport.com/articles/295 ... p-freshmen

Things not off to a good start for Tyty in Lexington.

Kerr outplaying TyTy and Aiken outplaying Kaluma

Makes me wonder if Tyty would even be getting many minutes for us, had he chosen the right Wildcats.

Granted, it's early in the season.

I love our backcourt. Kinda crazy to think it almost included Tyty and Akinjo.

"James Akinjo double-double paces No. 9 Baylor past Central Arkansas
By Field Level Media

2 MIN READ


LJ Cryer scored 20 points and James Akinjo contributed 18 points, 10 assists, six rebounds and four steals as No. 9 Baylor dominated Central Arkansas 92-47 on Wednesday in Waco, Texas."

https://www.reuters.com/article/basketb ... EHBIQZWCZ7

Didn’t want to start a new thread but the line on the Wichita St game opened at -8. WICHITA ST GIVING 8 points.

If you believe in Tommy Lloyd you better get down to your local sports book and drop a dime on AZ and drop another dime on the money line.

I am shocked at that line. It is down to -7.5 already locally which isn’t a surprise here in AZ

Wait they're favored by 7.5 over AZ? That seems crazy after the first few games.

Yep, saw the opening line and thought it had to be wrong so I drove up to a casino and sure enough they had Wichita St favored.

Looking at the espn scoreboard they have the Cats favored by 7.5

Draftkings has Arizona -7.5

ASUHATER! wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:41 pm Wait they're favored by 7.5 over AZ? That seems crazy after the first few games.

Well damn, I knew I should have dropped some money on the cats at the book. They said it was Wichita st 7.5 Of course they probably wouldn’t take a bet yet

Vegas Insider has it Wichita St -8.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-ba ... las-vegas/

Yep that’s where my odyssey started Greg

On my phone at FanDual the game isn't listed yet.

Not up at the MGM either and they are usually first on the strip

azcat49 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:23 pm Not up at the MGM either and they are usually first on the strip

I'm guessing they're seeing the mix-up as well and are just waiting for it to get straightened out.

Caesar’s just opened with Wichita St -8 on vegas insider

OK several books open with Wichita St favored according to Vegas insider

I think the quality of opponents we have played is making them doubt us. With that said 8 points is a lot. I have seen other teams play on TV and they look fairly good even though not rated. I might take some of that action.

Just the volume of shots we should get up would make 8 points a tough cover for Wichita St.

If this is right I am putting all the holiday money on the cats to cover that number

I’m seeing Cats -7.5 on BetMGM.

The game is finally up at FanDual with the Cats -8.5.

azgreg wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:06 am

Beachcat97 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:26 am

phxcat23 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:59 pm You all see the crap on the uapointguardu Instagram? Back from the dead

What is uapointguardu? Sorry, late to the party, I guess.

https://www.instagram.com/uapointguardu/

Take a look at his personal page too. Talk about fluffing your own ego.

Shockers discussion thread:
https://shockernet.net/forum/wichita-st ... ost1317135

This is really strange

If you click on any of the links though it show the Cats as the favorite. There's a glitch in the matrix.

azgreg wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:29 pm If you click on any of the links though it show the Cats as the favorite. There's a glitch in the matrix.

I stopped at the Paris Casino Sportsbook a few hours ago after breakfast - Arizona, -5 points