Bear Down Wildcats

Baylor has picked it back up

97cats wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:44 pm they still might play kansas again the Big 12 tournament boys......in contention, not lock, not drivers seat.

lot can happen

I don't think it'd matter much tbh. If they play Kansas again it'd be in the finals. They would've already clinched the 1 seed by then. I think Kansas is the one who absolutely need to win the tournament. Even if Baylor gets bounced early, they still have 12 quad 1 wins, double Arizona's. Plus also winning a share of the toughest conference.

KU is in a battle for the last spot imo with Auburn. Kentucky can get in if auburn and ku both lose early in the conference tournaments. Duke can get in if all 3 lose early and they win theirs.

Imo Baylor is such a lock at this point (assuming they beat Iowa St at home) with their very impressive resume that they're actually in contention to get the #1 overall seed.

azgreg wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:45 pm

Jefe wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:08 pm Gonzaga's season was over last Saturday!?

Did you see this horseshit aka the WCC bracket?

The Zags ruin the policy, but a lot of smaller leagues have the policy of giving their reg season champions double bye to avoid getting upset early and not getting an NCAA bid.

so if KU wins the Big 12 Tournament you think two #1's will come from the Big12?

or you think even if KU wins the Big 12 Tournament that Baylor will still be #1 seed and KU would be a #2? -

Yeah two #1s if Kansas does get the conference tournament. They would both have share of the regular season title from the toughest conference in the nation. Baylor would have 12 quad 1 wins at minimum and Kansas would have 12+ as well and also the conference tournament if they go all the way. That's a way better resume than Auburn or Kentucky.

If they don't, it's likely to be auburn as long as they don't lose early. Kentucky won't have the regular season championship to fall back on so they have to win their tournament to get a chance even if they have the best advanced metrics rankings.

interesting - i do not believe two Big12 teams will be #1 seeds this season but thats my opinion.

i appreciate you taking the time to post all the data - i love reading it thank you

Yeah I don't think it's going to happen because Kansas is floundering late in the season. So is Auburn for that matter.

I think 1 team is going to fall backwards into a 1 seed because someone has to take it. It's unfortunate that Kentucky stumbled too much because they are the only team who's looked like a #1 seed. They're 3rd in the pecking order right now.

97cats wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:13 pm so if KU wins the Big 12 Tournament you think two #1's will come from the Big12?

or you think even if KU wins the Big 12 Tournament that Baylor will still be #1 seed and KU would be a #2? -

Depends on what happens with Auburn. If Auburn wins the SEC tourney, there's no way they aren't a #1 seed.

So it would be Gonzaga, AZ, Auburn and either Baylor or Kansas.

As far as Duke goes, this is the weakest the ACC has been in AGES, so a lot would have to go wrong for Kansas, Baylor, Auburn and Kentucky for Duke to get into the #1 seed conversation, imo.

I think it's pretty simple for the last 2 remaining #1 spots:

1) Either Auburn or Kentucky from the SEC
2) Either Baylor or Kansas from the Big 12

Their Tourney's will have a lot to say in the final outcome.

I’m trying to remember if we were comfortably a 1-seed in 2014 or if we were sweating it.

I feel like we lost our last regular season game and then lost in the conference tourney so I can’t remember if we were wondering if we’d end up a 2 or if we had the 1 all locked up.

Anyway, it’s nice not to be sweating it this year.

Chicat wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:47 am I’m trying to remember if we were comfortably a 1-seed in 2014 or if we were sweating it.

I feel like we lost our last regular season game and then lost in the conference tourney so I can’t remember if we were wondering if we’d end up a 2 or if we had the 1 all locked up.

Anyway, it’s nice not to be sweating it this year.

We are Arizona fans.... We will find something to worry about.

Arizona fans should worry about having been down at the half at home against Stanford. Will the committee notice? I'm not saying that half game will move Arizona to a 2-seed, but let's just say Arizona fans better hope that Baylor, Kansas, and Kentucky all lose their first conference tourney games, or else that half could come back to bite them. Arizona has the best A-game in the country, but the problem is their B-game loses to the B-game of a lot of strong tourney teams. And when it comes to seeding, remember that Arizona hasn't really beaten anyone of note this season.

It's not who you beat, it's who you're playing when I shitpost on Twitter.

he's trolling.

Give me Joey Hairpiece’s latest bracket

If Memphis wins their conference tournament do they end up as an 8 or 9? That's a team I'd prefer not to play on the first weekend.

97cats wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:31 pm interesting - i do not believe two Big12 teams will be #1 seeds this season but thats my opinion.

i appreciate you taking the time to post all the data - i love reading it thank you

I think it’s Zags, AZ, Big12, SEC/Big10

Depending on outcomes I don’t see two teams from same conference being 1s.

#3 most accurate bracket maker over a 5 year average, latest update from today (3/4)

Alieberman wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:36 am Give me Joey Hairpiece’s latest bracket

He has Arkansas, Auburn and Kentucky all in the same bracket

He’s an idiot.

RaisingArizona wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:00 am If Memphis wins their conference tournament do they end up as an 8 or 9? That's a team I'd prefer not to play on the first weekend.

Penny vs. Tommy? I like our chances.

RondaeShimmy wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:03 am #3 most accurate bracket maker over a 5 year average, latest update from today (3/4)

I think this would be a horrible bracket for us

Kentucky, Texas Tech, Illinois in Chicago, and even a Uconn team can beat anyone (beat Auburn early in the year) on a given day

With Arizona as a 1-seed, the top team to avoid is UConn. Whichever bracket they're in, the 1-4 seeds will all go down before they play UConn. And UConn will probably face an 11-seed in the regional.

There is gonna be a game in this tourney where someone does what Stanford did, and does it better. Similar to the strategy in boulder. Make the game ugly. Be overly physical, damn the fouls, and frustrate Arizona. Tommy has gotta get the dudes to realize that teams are gonna punch them in the balls and the only response is to dunk and lay said balls on their foreheads.

rhino ball keep Tech the fuck away good god i agree, Odogg

RondaeShimmy wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:03 am #3 most accurate bracket maker over a 5 year average, latest update from today (3/4)

That bracket is a recipe for us to lose in the sweet 16

The only team in the entire field I fear is Longwood

Keep them the fuck away from us. If you see them in our bracket... pack your bags.... we're going home early

97cats wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:19 am rhino ball keep Tech the fuck away good god i agree, Odogg

Tech is exactly the team I was thinking about.


Also, all this dumb talk about if a team is “final 4” good is bullshit. Usually it comes down to a game where shit goes sideways, and you’re done.

Let those fuckers face dook.

ASUHATER! wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:20 am

RondaeShimmy wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:03 am #3 most accurate bracket maker over a 5 year average, latest update from today (3/4)

That bracket is a recipe for us to lose in the sweet 16

illinois in chicago in the sweet 16 is at the top of the dont want list for sure - too many ghosts

Olsondogg wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:17 am There is gonna be a game in this tourney where someone does what Stanford did, and does it better. Similar to the strategy in boulder. Make the game ugly. Be overly physical, damn the fouls, and frustrate Arizona. Tommy has gotta get the dudes to realize that teams are gonna punch them in the balls and the only response is to dunk and lay said balls on their foreheads.

This is a great post and was super pleased the first two possessions in the second half were a CK dunk and CK layup.

SabinoDrifter wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:49 am

Olsondogg wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:17 am There is gonna be a game in this tourney where someone does what Stanford did, and does it better. Similar to the strategy in boulder. Make the game ugly. Be overly physical, damn the fouls, and frustrate Arizona. Tommy has gotta get the dudes to realize that teams are gonna punch them in the balls and the only response is to dunk and lay said balls on their foreheads.

This is a great post and was super pleased the first two possessions in the second half were a CK dunk and CK layup.

Those lobs into CK are going to be there all day against smaller teams, even against some teams with decent bigs. No one has arms as long as his coupled with his leaping ability. Post entry passes to CK (and AT) should be our bread and butter.

97cats wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:31 am
illinois in chicago in the sweet 16 is at the top of the dont want list for sure - too many ghosts

True. Would not be easy to beat that team twice in one season, on their turf.

SabinoDrifter wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:49 am

Olsondogg wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:17 am There is gonna be a game in this tourney where someone does what Stanford did, and does it better. Similar to the strategy in boulder. Make the game ugly. Be overly physical, damn the fouls, and frustrate Arizona. Tommy has gotta get the dudes to realize that teams are gonna punch them in the balls and the only response is to dunk and lay said balls on their foreheads.

This is a great post and was super pleased the first two possessions in the second half were a CK dunk and CK layup.

I agree with the post, too, but the other ingredients in this strategy have been mile-high elevation and/or exhausted players. One reason why college players have difficulty with only one day of rest is because, unlike in the NBA, college players are actually in college.

Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:34 am

SabinoDrifter wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:49 am

Olsondogg wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:17 am There is gonna be a game in this tourney where someone does what Stanford did, and does it better. Similar to the strategy in boulder. Make the game ugly. Be overly physical, damn the fouls, and frustrate Arizona. Tommy has gotta get the dudes to realize that teams are gonna punch them in the balls and the only response is to dunk and lay said balls on their foreheads.

This is a great post and was super pleased the first two possessions in the second half were a CK dunk and CK layup.

Those lobs into CK are going to be there all day against smaller teams, even against some teams with decent bigs. No one has arms as long as his coupled with his leaping ability. Post entry passes to CK (and AT) should be our bread and butter.

All day? Stanford broke up like four in a row in the first half last night and Tubelis was particularly bad throwing post entry passes.

Yeah, need to be careful on those backside helps plus a few of those passes were just plain bad.

Chicat wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:44 am

Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:34 am

SabinoDrifter wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 10:49 am

Olsondogg wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:17 am There is gonna be a game in this tourney where someone does what Stanford did, and does it better. Similar to the strategy in boulder. Make the game ugly. Be overly physical, damn the fouls, and frustrate Arizona. Tommy has gotta get the dudes to realize that teams are gonna punch them in the balls and the only response is to dunk and lay said balls on their foreheads.

This is a great post and was super pleased the first two possessions in the second half were a CK dunk and CK layup.

Those lobs into CK are going to be there all day against smaller teams, even against some teams with decent bigs. No one has arms as long as his coupled with his leaping ability. Post entry passes to CK (and AT) should be our bread and butter.

All day? Stanford broke up like four in a row in the first half last night and Tubelis was particularly bad throwing post entry passes.

Chi, when I finally got a chance to tune in during the 2nd half, we were feeding CK left and right, and Stanford seemed virtually powerless to stop him. I'm not sure if we made adjustments from the first half or what, but clearly Lloyd has figured out ways to create space for him and get him touches near the basket. Maybe teams better than Stanford will make it harder for CK to get dunks and lay-ins, but I've seen enough of him this year to know he can be a *problem* when he gets the ball in the paint.

Anybody, anywhere, anytime.

Olsondogg wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:17 am There is gonna be a game in this tourney where someone does what Stanford did, and does it better. Similar to the strategy in boulder. Make the game ugly. Be overly physical, damn the fouls, and frustrate Arizona. Tommy has gotta get the dudes to realize that teams are gonna punch them in the balls and the only response is to dunk and lay said balls on their foreheads.

I think Tennessee put the model out there. Oregon and Colorado allied it as well. You have to get back on defense and then the key to flustering us in the half court seems to play hyper physical and handsy defense in the high post and coupled with lots of body contact near the rim. Then the opponent has to hope that we're off target from the perimeter. I do think that the approach tends to push the boundaries of legal play but I have little doubt that it will be allowed in a tournament game or two. We absolutely need to be prepared for it.

UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:09 am

RaisingArizona wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:00 am If Memphis wins their conference tournament do they end up as an 8 or 9? That's a team I'd prefer not to play on the first weekend.

Penny vs. Tommy? I like our chances.

I would expect us to win as well but it's definitely not my preferred round 2 matchup. Since Bates has been away from the team, Memphis is top 20 in offensive and defensive efficiency and they're just about as naturally talented as anybody.

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ugh - JD Notae

the game in Knoxville true to form all season breaks Arizona's way again.

the win puts the Vols guaranteed in the bottom half 100% off the four line and most likely sends Arkansas to the five/six line and def headed to the bottom half with an additional loss in the conf tournament. something to watch.

say no to Notae

Arizona is playing today, and in pac tourney, for overall #1 seed.

Olsondogg wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:10 pm Arizona is playing today, and in pac tourney, for overall #1 seed.

You think we'll be the overall #1 if we win the next 4?

97cats wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:27 pmugh - JD Notae

Notae isn't as scary as Ivey on Purdue, imo.

No one in the sec can win a road game vs good competition

Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:16 pm

97cats wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:27 pmugh - JD Notae

Notae isn't as scary as Ivey on Purdue, imo.

Purdue has zero defense.

Not scared of 1 player

There are no easy roads.

azgreg wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:13 pm

Olsondogg wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:10 pm Arizona is playing today, and in pac tourney, for overall #1 seed.

You think we'll be the overall #1 if we win the next 4?

I do

Not seeing how we pass Gonzaga if they win out. Adding another win over ucla may not do all that much considering Gonzaga plastered them earlier in the season.