azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm
Probably was said but I can’t find it, how was the AZ crowd? Any numbers as guesstimates?
I could hear UofA chants on tv, so pretty decent probably
There were few UA fans in attedance yesterday............but we were very noisy.
I would guess that we had 150-200 in the corner of the lower bowl.
The TTech Baylor game before ours had maybe 1/3rd of the lower bowl full before the Kansas fans showed up.
So much for the Great Big12 fans.
Finally someone gets it
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:05 pm
by Chicat
I’m so glad you found each other.
Now please show Yormark how those fans will suddenly magically get better in Las Vegas.
I mean, that’s where I want the tourney too, but you’re going to have to convince him that the Bad Fans will become Good Fans when they get to Sin City.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:26 pm
by dirtbags
g32knights wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:59 am
I liked seeing Tommy pull KJ. Too many times he's just putting his head down and driving with zero intention of passing.
i was surprised that tommy didn't keep ADO on a shorter leash too. i mean, we know why he has to play dell'orso but i thought tommy wanted him to be more of a catch and shoot guy. there were a few times when ADO tried to drive and create, and it's like... please stop dribbling.
g32knights wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:59 am
I liked seeing Tommy pull KJ. Too many times he's just putting his head down and driving with zero intention of passing.
i was surprised that tommy didn't keep ADO on a shorter leash too. i mean, we know why he has to play dell'orso but i thought tommy wanted him to be more of a catch and shoot guy. there were a few times when ADO tried to drive and create, and it's like... please stop dribbling.
Especially after the prior game when ADO was pulled 2 minutes in when he dribbled to the basket twice and was called for traveling both times.
But Love was told by Tommy to only catch and shoot, and still does what he wants, so
azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm
Probably was said but I can’t find it, how was the AZ crowd? Any numbers as guesstimates?
I could hear UofA chants on tv, so pretty decent probably
There were few UA fans in attedance yesterday............but we were very noisy.
I would guess that we had 150-200 in the corner of the lower bowl.
The TTech Baylor game before ours had maybe 1/3rd of the lower bowl full before the Kansas fans showed up.
So much for the Great Big12 fans.
Finally someone gets it
Having been to almost every PAC-12 tournament game here in Vegas since the tournament moved here, other when Arizona played, the arenas weren't close to full.
An ex-coworker/friend was in charge of accounting at both the Grand Garden and then at T-Mobile. He didn't care who won the championship but they sure wanted Arizona in the championship game for all the F&B revenue a full arena would bring in, as opposed to a half full arena, maybe a little more, with two non-UofA teams.
azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm
Probably was said but I can’t find it, how was the AZ crowd? Any numbers as guesstimates?
I could hear UofA chants on tv, so pretty decent probably
There were few UA fans in attedance yesterday............but we were very noisy.
I would guess that we had 150-200 in the corner of the lower bowl.
The TTech Baylor game before ours had maybe 1/3rd of the lower bowl full before the Kansas fans showed up.
So much for the Great Big12 fans.
Finally someone gets it
Having been to almost every PAC-12 tournament game here in Vegas since the tournament moved here, other when Arizona played, the arenas weren't close to full.
An ex-coworker/friend was in charge of accounting at both the Grand Garden and then at T-Mobile. He didn't care who won the championship but they sure wanted Arizona in the championship game for all the F&B revenue a full arena would bring in, as opposed to a half full arena, maybe a little more, with two non-UofA teams.
The only reason why Big XII loser stans said the Tournament can't move is the attendance in KC.
Now that attendance will be shit it proves there is no reason to not move to Vegas ASAP
Lower level tickets are dirt cheap today in KC. It is fucking pathetic
KC is Vegas except they have ISU and KU and not nearly as much to do and worse rooms and less money
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:33 pm
by AZCatGirl
I don't get this Vegas obsession. There's zero proof attendance will somehow be better in Vegas.
And "zero reason not to move to Vegas ASAP". As if contracts mean nothing.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:37 pm
by VegasCatFan
AZCatGirl wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:33 pm
I don't get this Vegas obsession. There's zero proof attendance will somehow be better in Vegas.
And "zero reason not to move to Vegas ASAP". As if contracts mean nothing.
Personally, I'd love for it to be here in Vegas. But if Arizona isn't a 1-4 seed and loses in the first round, good chance the rest of the games will be played in a half full arena. When the contract expires, then maybe they can rotate the tournament to different cities. The conference goes from almost coast to coast so maybe the tourney will too at some point.
And between the basketball tourney and spring break, Vegas hotel rooms will not be cheap.
AZCatGirl wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:33 pm
I don't get this Vegas obsession. There's zero proof attendance will somehow be better in Vegas.
And "zero reason not to move to Vegas ASAP". As if contracts mean nothing.
Personally, I'd love for it to be here in Vegas. But if Arizona isn't a 1-4 seed and loses in the first round, good chance the rest of the games will be played in a half full arena. When the contract expires, then maybe they can rotate the tournament to different cities. The conference goes from almost coast to coast so maybe the tourney will too at some point.
And between the basketball tourney and spring break, Vegas hotel rooms will not be cheap.
Just like tonight and tomorrow since Big 12 stans are full of shit
azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm
Probably was said but I can’t find it, how was the AZ crowd? Any numbers as guesstimates?
Not nearly as good as the Kansas or Iowa State crowds.
I see what you did there. LMAO
Glad someone got it!
I mean it is a Tommy Lloyd thread, right?
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:09 pm
by Chicat
AZCatGirl wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:33 pm
I don't get this Vegas obsession. There's zero proof attendance will somehow be better in Vegas.
And "zero reason not to move to Vegas ASAP". As if contracts mean nothing.
The Vegas obsession is centered around certain fans that are still butthurt the PAC12 doesn’t exist.
Get ready to hear this idiocy every year.
Vegas would be great for us. Doesn’t mean there are good reasons for it to happen.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:12 pm
by UAdevil
I enjoy Vegas well enough, but I've been there dozens of times. I'm ready to hit KC next year. Only passed thru before. Going to try to get Tix with some of my wife's friends who are KU alums and hit the games next year if we can.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:16 pm
by Chicat
UAdevil wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:12 pm
I enjoy Vegas well enough, but I've been there dozens of times. I'm ready to hit KC next year. Only passed thru before. Going to try to get Tix with some of my wife's friends who are KU alums and hit the games next year if we can.
Big12 Stan!!!
Podcast bro!!!
Whatever happened to Arizona fans like UAdevil going anywhere to watch us play and turning that place into McKale… whatever?
Sounds like certain posters are scared of not having the conference tourney in their backyard. Weak…
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:18 pm
by VegasCatFan
UAdevil wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:12 pm
I enjoy Vegas well enough, but I've been there dozens of times. I'm ready to hit KC next year. Only passed thru before. Going to try to get Tix with some of my wife's friends who are KU alums and hit the games next year if we can.
I'd love to see it rotate among several cities, like the Final 4 and the regionals do. Gives people a chance to see different places.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:45 pm
by UAdevil
Yep. A rotation would be optimal.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:52 pm
by Postmaster
UAdevil wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:45 pm
Yep. A rotation would be optimal.
UAdevil wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:45 pm
Yep. A rotation would be optimal.
So, truck stop to truck stop?
Waco - Stillwater - Ames - Lubbock?
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:02 pm
by UAdevil
Vegas, KC, Houston, Phx
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:02 pm
by Merkin
^Like that idea of rotating it. Reminds me of when the PAC rotated their tourney. No place sold out like McKale did.
I know I am in the minority, but in truth I would rather go to KC or someplace I have never been before instead of Vegas. Every time I go to Vegas I think that's the last time I am going there. Nothing against it, but I don't gamble, have nothing against gambling, just never had any extra money to lose doing it. I did like the $2 blackjack tables though. Could play a long time. Don't go to shows for the same reason, very expensive. Other than that, LV is just a hot dusty desert city in summer, and a cold windy desert city in the winter.
Not like the old days when you could get a prime rib buffet dinner for $4.99.
PAC tourney total attendance:
Year (Seed) Champion (Title #) Total Attendance
2021 (5) Oregon State (1st) N/A^
2022 (1) #2 Arizona (8th) 66,201
2023 (2) #8 Arizona (9th) 65,721
2024 (4) Oregon (6th) 76,101
UAdevil wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:45 pm
Yep. A rotation would be optimal.
So, truck stop to truck stop?
There's truck stops in Vegas.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:24 pm
by AZCatGirl
Honestly the rotation idea sounds like the best idea yet. Nice chance to visit other Big 12 cities. This isn't the Pac 12 where no one but us gives a shit about basketball.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:26 pm
by PHXCATS
AZCatGirl wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:24 pm
Honestly the rotation idea sounds like the best idea yet. Nice chance to visit other Big 12 cities. This isn't the Pac 12 where no one but us gives a shit about basketball.
UAdevil wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:45 pm
Yep. A rotation would be optimal.
So, truck stop to truck stop?
Waco - Stillwater - Ames - Lubbock?
yikes!
i figured arizona fans favored vegas because the tournament basically becomes home(ish) games for us, and out of kc to blunt ku's advantages in the future. a rotation would be great, but yeah, then you'd get places like tulsa and des moines bidding on the event. denver, austin, dallas, kc, vegas would be nice easy-to-travel-to locations sorta central to the big12 schools but dunno if they're interested in hosting a conf tournament. st louis would likely bite, though i'm ambivalent about having a tournament there
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:30 pm
by Chicat
Oh hey look, tangible answers. Not just knee jerk emotion-posts about how it MUST be in Vegas next year.
I’d throw Chicago in the mix. Closer to ISU, WVU, Cincy. And there are a butt load of KU alums here so they’d be cool with it.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:36 pm
by pc in NM
Chicat wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:30 pm
Oh hey look, tangible answers. Not just knee jerk emotion-posts about how it MUST be in Vegas next year.
I’d throw Chicago in the mix. Closer to ISU, WVU, Cincy. And there are a butt load of KU alums here so they’d be cool with it.
I'd prefer Denver over Chicago (feels too "BIG" to me), and would work in a rotation
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:40 pm
by azcat49
Chicago, KC, Vegas, Orlando, Phoenix, Dallas would be a good rotation
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:00 pm
by TheCat
This is the first year but I think Arizona fans will start to show up wherever they play. Would like a rotation though simply because I hate Kansas.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:54 pm
by Merkin
Not sure that BYU and Utah would ever approve of sin city.
How do you get a Mormon to not drink your beer?
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:37 pm
by pc in NM
TheCat wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:00 pm
This is the first year but I think Arizona fans will start to show up wherever they play. Would like a rotation though simply because I hate Kansas.
T-Mobile is in Missouri...
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:17 pm
by VegasCatFan
azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:40 pm
Chicago, KC, Vegas, Orlando, Phoenix, Dallas would be a good rotation
This would be the perfect rotation!
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:03 pm
by Alieberman
3 Conf Champ games in 4 years for Tommy
Can we give him some love now?
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:06 pm
by Chicat
He’s a better gameday coach than Lute or Miller ever were.
azcat49 wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:40 pm
Chicago, KC, Vegas, Orlando, Phoenix, Dallas would be a good rotation
This would be the perfect rotation!
Isn't it gonna be there (Kansas city) til like 2032 or something?
Thought I heard that on one of the broadcasts.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 4:04 am
by EastCoastCat
Good job CTL. Tonight you are playing with house money (no B12 Conference Tournament location pun intended)
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 6:19 am
by Djcat
Tommy did a great job. Pulled KJ again early when he was out of control. Maybe he sits too long waiting for the first media time out and comes out over hyped. Just crazy ball of energy and not in a good way.
Back to Tommy, he was definitely in Love’s ear telling him not to take bad shots. Can’t believe he said it to ESPN during half time interview.
Considering the foul situation, coach managed the rotations very well. If you told me Awaka only played 8 mins and we won, I wouldn’t have believed it.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:47 am
by EastCoastCat
We will need to have Awaka be a beast tonight. Gotta assume the refs will let them play physical.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:57 am
by pc in NM
EastCoastCat wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:47 am
We will need to have Awaka be a beast tonight. Gotta assume the refs will let them play physical.
Will Roberts be back for Houston today?
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:08 am
by Postmaster
EastCoastCat wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 4:04 am
Good job CTL. Tonight you are playing with house money (no B12 Conference Tournament location pun intended)
Chicat wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 4:23 pm
Don’t show ECC!
Kiss my…
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:56 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Tommy Bad Fan Lloyd
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:05 pm
by EastCoastCat
Man, CTL was pissed at the presser. Houston running ISO’s in the second half and our guys not “man-ing up” and getting stops irritated him to no end.
Re: Tommy Lloyd
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:30 pm
by 84Cat
EastCoastCat wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:05 pm
Man, CTL was pissed at the presser. Houston running ISO’s in the second half and our guys not “man-ing up” and getting stops irritated him to no end.