Game 6, vs Providence, at Wooden Legacy (2015-2016)

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York 2-8 tonight after his horrible night yesterday.
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mr. anderson on cleanup duty!
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Anderson is our best player. Zeus and Anderson is a formidable front court.
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Anderson is doing all he can to will us through. Someone else needs to be huge down the stretch.
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Merkin wrote:York 2-8 tonight after his horrible night yesterday.

5/23 for the tournament so far.
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Stay on the attack cats lets do this and foul them all out! Went from hating the refs to loving htem (almost)
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i'm expecting gabe to find his stroke around the last media timeout, per usual
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finallY #yorkcity
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There's a splash from York City.
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dirtbags wrote:i'm expecting gabe to find his stroke around the last media timeout, per usual
That can't be a regular gameplan, senior or no senior.

He and Tollefsen are responsible for virtually all of the 4-5-point swings this young season. They need to start playing like seniors.
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thank you, gabe!
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Tolly needs to sit.
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Man Tollefsen late in the game is a disaster. Two games in a row he made a game changing error.
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awful turnover. awful.
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20 turnovers...jesus
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Same here.
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When Tollefson makes these mental errors why does he get to stay in the game? Trier, a freshman, makes one mistake and he sits for 10 minutes.
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I miss Rondae
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UAdevil wrote:20 turnovers...jesus
In most days, a team making 17 turnovers would vow to wise up the next night.

Instead, this team makes more. Chemistry may not be a problem, but IQ definitely is on this team.
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billk78 wrote:When Tollefson makes these mental errors why does he get to stay in the game? Trier, a freshman, makes one mistake and he sits for 10 minutes.
Trier has 4 TOs in less minutes, Tolly only has 1.
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So much for playing MSU.
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Beat ourselves. Just dumb dumb mistakes. Gotta get their heads in these games if we want to do anything this year.
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Bunch of fuckin mental midgets on this team.
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Can't wait for the "good loss" crowd to come out.
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Merkin wrote:
billk78 wrote:When Tollefson makes these mental errors why does he get to stay in the game? Trier, a freshman, makes one mistake and he sits for 10 minutes.
Trier has 4 TOs in less minutes, Tolly only has 1.
At least Trier can score though. Tolly is just a body.
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bye bye top 10 streak
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You don't get away with playing stupid two nights in a row.

Especially not without your four-year starting seven-footer.

Decidedly un-end-of-game-like performance by our team, though. 18-7 run by Providence the final 8 minutes, I believe.
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I think going to OT last night caught up with us near the end. I don't think we make as many dumb mistakes if we're fresher.
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This team doesn't secure or protect the ball at all. Awful.
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AZCatGirl wrote:So much for playing MSU.

That would really have been a beatdown. Dunn killed Arizona in only 21 minutes.

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AZCatGirl wrote:I think going to OT last night caught up with us near the end. I don't think we make as many dumb mistakes if we're fresher.
Good point....but there were a lot of mental errors early on too. Stepping on the baseline. Fighting our own guys for rebounds and knocking it out. Horrible passes. Chucking up 3s. Low basketball IQs.
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Without a doubt the most unforced turnovers I have ever seen a team make. Arizona literally handed them the game with the most ridiculous boneheaded turnovers. Of course several came at crunch time.
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Tollefsen can't put up five points and three rebounds with the kind of minutes he's getting.
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AZCatGirl wrote:I think going to OT last night caught up with us near the end. I don't think we make as many dumb mistakes if we're fresher.
We been making mistakes on back to back games. This team is just reckless with the ball and tries to do too damn much
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This team has several issues:

1) Very few players who can actually make their own shot one-one-one
2) Too many athletic stiffs (Tolly, Pitts, Ristic)

Going to be a long, hard year
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billk78 wrote:
Merkin wrote:
billk78 wrote:When Tollefson makes these mental errors why does he get to stay in the game? Trier, a freshman, makes one mistake and he sits for 10 minutes.
Trier has 4 TOs in less minutes, Tolly only has 1.
At least Trier can score though. Tolly is just a body.
and toll's responsible for more than we see on the statline, though -- e.g., misses interior pass from kadeem (TO charged to KA); turning ball over in late game scenarios; etc.
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AZCatGirl wrote:I think going to OT last night caught up with us near the end. I don't think we make as many dumb mistakes if we're fresher.
Our guards didn't make cuts in the offense or have any certainty in running it virtually the whole game. Can't blame going OT the night before on that, not with college kids.

Intelligent leadership is really going to be a problem with this team. York still doesn't understand who he can stop, who he can't and when to shoot, and whoever hyped up the Mark Tollefsen transfer should face a civil lawsuit for fraud. Dude makes you wish for the mental acuity of Jamelle Horne.
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dmjcat wrote:This team has several issues:

1) Very few players who can actually make their own shot one-one-one
2) Too many athletic stiffs (Tolly, Pitts, Ristic)

Going to be a long, hard year
Remember when Pitts was a 3 point gunner? Now he is a defensive specialist who can't score a point.
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For some reason Miller really likes Tolefsen if you're going by minutes though. And he's always in late in the game. Is it because everyone else is worse? Heck, give Comanche more minutes at this point.
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dmjcat wrote:This team has several issues:

1) Very few players who can actually make their own shot one-one-one
2) Too many athletic stiffs (Tolly, Pitts, Ristic)

Going to be a long, hard year
I thought ristic played well!
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billk78 wrote:For some reason Miller really likes Tolefsen if you're going by minutes though. And he's always in late in the game. Is it because everyone else is worse? Heck, give Comanche more minutes at this point.
At least chance is athletic enough
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3goggles wrote:
dmjcat wrote:This team has several issues:

1) Very few players who can actually make their own shot one-one-one
2) Too many athletic stiffs (Tolly, Pitts, Ristic)

Going to be a long, hard year
I thought ristic played well!
I thought Ristic was better tonight and was the victim of some awful calls. But I agree with the OP that he's pretty stiff and unathletic.
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And I hate to say I warned you guys about Pitts, but he really is becoming another Zane Johnson for this team.

Any of our guards could be so much more, though, if they just ran the damn offense and quit standing around waiting for York to go ISO. Nobody save Anderson goes to the hole aggressively enough for us, on or off the ball.

Ristic did in spurts, and good things happened. But cutting to the hole was a problem even with Ashley and Rondae on possessions, and it looks to be worse with this team.

Considering the lower defensive ceiling and shot insecurity, this is going to test our fan loyalty at times.
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carolinacat wrote:Tollefsen can't put up five points and three rebounds with the kind of minutes he's getting.
Should not start. Never looks like he's in the game. Disappointing.
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Miller said we went out there expecting to win. You'd think after last night they wouldn't overlook Providence, but I guess not. Maybe losing will get the message across.
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Zeus or no Zeus, we commit even the three less turnovers we had last night against Santa Clara, and we win.

As good a loss for us as it's going to get, if this team is going to learn and get better.
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So, having slept through this game, it would appear I didn't miss much.
It's long past time to bring this back to the court, let's do it with a small update:

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Too tired and sick to comment.

Great to see the CATS and Miller in person for the first time in years, and that was probably the highlight of the night. Some other highlights, but too tired to recap ATM.
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