Allonzo Trier

BibbysTowelDude · Post by **BibbysTowelDude** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:21 pm

It feels like nothing good has happened to Arizona Athletics since that damn bunting fiasco in the World Series.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:39 am

Boivin: The mystery surrounding Arizona's Allonzo Trier
Paola Boivin , azcentral sports 3:59 p.m. MST October 22, 2016

What started out as a swirling mess of rumors the past few weeks turned into a full-fledged news story at Pac-12 basketball media day.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/h ... /92586750/" target="_blank

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:24 am

What does pitts have to do with anything. And the random other sports info. She is a terrible writer.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:32 am

Gilbertcat wrote:What does pitts have to do with anything. And the random other sports info. She is a terrible writer.

Yeah but maybe she smells good and always remembers to clear her home's roof gutters and that kind of stuff.

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:46 pm

Well, it's not a PED...

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:23 pm

luteformayor2 wrote:Well, it's not a PED...

Is that what they're reporting on PGU?

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:00 pm

Chicat wrote:
luteformayor2 wrote:Well, it's not a PED...
Is that what they're reporting on PGU?

Nope. Fuck PGU.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:15 pm

luteformayor2 wrote:Well, it's not a PED...

Weed?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:40 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:
luteformayor2 wrote:Well, it's not a PED...
Weed?

Crack?

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:02 pm

I've heard it's grades. Anybody else?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:09 pm

wyo-cat wrote:I've heard it's grades. Anybody else?

Would kind of line up with the Miles Simon comment.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:26 pm

Grades would be good news, as that would likely only be a suspension through the Fall '16 term. He could be eligible by January.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:35 pm

But I thought I saw someone post (97 cats?) not academic?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:44 pm

How would grades even make sense? This issue arose like a month into fall semester.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:46 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:But I thought I saw someone post (97 cats?) not academic?

From page 14 of this thread:

97cats wrote:from the very little I know, Its not assault or a girl or drugs (coke, weed, molly, etc.) or driving related or breaking the law or academic.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:02 pm

So not PEDs, not grades, not criminal...what does that even leave?

Hank of sb · Post by **Hank of sb** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:20 pm

Trier has had one of the more notorious high school careers ever. He may never have stayed at ANY school longer than than a year starting in fifth grade. The New York Tines published an article about Trier, his mom and his travails focusing on his academics as much as his basketball.

It would make sense that academic problems would show their face--for Trier-- at any public institution during his second year, especially given that the second year was one Trier had never seen himself undergoing as he assumed he'd be in the NBA.

Academics is also an area that the Athletic Department might think they'd be able to "navigate." Of course that depends on the exact problem, the school's integrity, and the like.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:26 pm

Hank of sb wrote:Trier has had one of the more notorious high school careers ever. He may never have stayed at ANY school longer than than a year starting in fifth grade. The New York Tines published an article about Trier, his mom and his travails focusing on his academics as much as his basketball.

It would make sense that academic problems would show their face--for Trier-- at any public institution during his second year, especially given that the second year was one Trier had never seen himself undergoing as he assumed he'd be in the NBA.

Academics is also an area that the Athletic Department might think they'd be able to "navigate." Of course that depends on the exact problem, the school's integrity, and the like.

I thought we covered that it's not academics.

Hank of sb · Post by **Hank of sb** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:43 pm

"Covered?" Well maybe. However, that's not the word I'd chose.

Still seems possible--academics, that is, especially since it was brought up--and especially since we've been told the AD and Miller feel they can navigate/mitigate/backstory the issue.

Like all of us I've wrestled with this issue; if PEDS were the problem, as in performance PEDS, then I can't see a way forward.

Hence, maybe just maybe it's a university problem, like a serious academic issue.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:10 pm

UNC doesn't have a problem "navigating" their academics for basketball.

Maybe Trier didn't do so hot in some summer school/remediation, and now its coming back to bite him. Just speculation on my part with no context/contacts whatsoever.

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:18 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:So not PEDs, not grades, not criminal...what does that even leave?

An argument with a teammate or staff member?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:39 am

I'm still concerned it involved a wheel of hard cheese.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:49 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
Hank of sb wrote:Trier has had one of the more notorious high school careers ever. He may never have stayed at ANY school longer than than a year starting in fifth grade. The New York Tines published an article about Trier, his mom and his travails focusing on his academics as much as his basketball.

It would make sense that academic problems would show their face--for Trier-- at any public institution during his second year, especially given that the second year was one Trier had never seen himself undergoing as he assumed he'd be in the NBA.

Academics is also an area that the Athletic Department might think they'd be able to "navigate." Of course that depends on the exact problem, the school's integrity, and the like.
I thought we covered that it's not academics.

All speculation thus far. No official word (here) yet. Guess that's good news?

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:14 am

I thought it was pretty well accepted that it was a banned substance that he took that came up in a drug test, potentially an internal UA one but seemingly most likely an NCAA one. There is an appeal process and that's likely where we're at. That's what I've been able to piece together thus far.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:07 am

Maybe he killed 5 hookers.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:09 am

97cats wrote:from the very little I know, Its not assault or a girl or drugs (coke, weed, molly, etc.) or driving related or breaking the law or academic.

Beachcat97 wrote:So not PEDs, not grades, not criminal...what does that even leave?

Have we covered receiving improper gifts/improper amateur contact? Would make sense for a person who may have had one foot at Arizona and the other stepping toward the NBA, or people around him who assumed as much. Something that could be navigated/mitigated, etc. Trier is a big time shoe head. Given some exclusive limited edition Jordans in the summer by somebody who expected him to return the favor and assumed he would be in the league?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:15 am

All good points, rgd.

TJATUA · Post by **TJATUA** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:34 am

azgreg wrote:Maybe he killed 5 hookers.

Trier doesn't go to ASU.

TJATUA · Post by **TJATUA** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:34 am

UAEebs86 wrote:
wyo-cat wrote:I've heard it's grades. Anybody else?

Would kind of line up with the Miles Simon comment.

Forgive my ignorance, but what did Miles say?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:39 am

TJATUA wrote:
azgreg wrote:Maybe he killed 5 hookers.
Trier doesn't go to ASU.

It's a Craig James reference.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:48 am

TJATUA wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
wyo-cat wrote:I've heard it's grades. Anybody else?

Would kind of line up with the Miles Simon comment.
Forgive my ignorance, but what did Miles say?

I don't know what Miles said in referring to Trier, but Simon had grade issues while a student. That was released by the school, so therefore Miles sued the school as grades are protected under FERPA.

TJATUA · Post by **TJATUA** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:00 am

azgreg wrote:
TJATUA wrote:
azgreg wrote:Maybe he killed 5 hookers.
Trier doesn't go to ASU.
It's a Craig James reference.

I know. Any opportunity to take a shot at ASU

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:37 am

I heard from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London that it's {bzzt! zap!} ...

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:47 am

Merkin wrote:
TJATUA wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
wyo-cat wrote:I've heard it's grades. Anybody else?

Would kind of line up with the Miles Simon comment.
Forgive my ignorance, but what did Miles say?

I don't know what Miles said in referring to Trier, but Simon had grade issues while a student. That was released by the school, so therefore Miles sued the school as grades are protected under FERPA.

I was referring to ChooChooCat's comment on Miles' 96-97 season.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:02 am

UAEebs86 wrote: I was referring to ChooChooCat's comment on Miles' 96-97 season.

The Miles Simon reference from ChooChooCat was in relation to his earlier post asking "would we be happy with a half year suspension?"

Which is what happened to Miles. That's all that was...no inference they were the same thing.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:30 am

Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:35 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.

so not drugs, not criminal, not academic, not PEDs, not improper benefits...that basically leaves nothing.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:43 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.

And I asked earlier about improper contact with an agent and the answer was no. Soooooooo voter fraud? I give up.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:44 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.

What did you expect with weeks before the first game and with the football team having a losing record?

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:49 am

Puerco wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.
What did you expect with weeks before the first game and with the football team having a losing record?

"losing record" is the most kind thing posted in this thread.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:50 am

Gilbertcat wrote:What does pitts have to do with anything. And the random other sports info. She is a terrible writer.

Maybe Trier is dating Harvey Mason's daughter.

Hank of sb · Post by **Hank of sb** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:52 am

ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.

OK. We're back to "not all anabolics are the same." Perhaps *that* was what was meant when a poster said it was NOT a PED. Hence, the legitimate hope for a reduced penalty.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:56 am

ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.
so not drugs, not criminal, not academic, not PEDs, not improper benefits...that basically leaves nothing.

Misuse of scholarship money? Offseason employment? Some major ethical violation? I'm at a loss.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:03 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.
so not drugs, not criminal, not academic, not PEDs, not improper benefits...that basically leaves nothing.

Or not all not's are actually not's.

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:07 pm

Yeah where did we credibly establish that it's not PEDs. There was some stuff tossed out here but I think we used a red herring to get away from the PEDs talk.

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:18 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.
so not drugs, not criminal, not academic, not PEDs, not improper benefits...that basically leaves nothing.

He went to Mills Mall because he heard there would be a good basketball scrimmage in the parking lot. After witnessing the game, he approached the teams coach and called him a "Chicken Sh*t". The coach ran off crying and later filed a grievance with the NCAA. Nobody knows was to do since the truth hurts.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:55 pm

cleaned his ear with a Q-tip smaller than his elbow

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:10 pm

gronk4heisman wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Wow this thread went off the rails. It's not academic nor did he accept improper benefits.
so not drugs, not criminal, not academic, not PEDs, not improper benefits...that basically leaves nothing.
Or not all not's are actually not's.

Yep.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:53 pm

I only see one comment that possibly infers it wasn't a PED?

I see someone misunderstanding ChooChooCat's question about would a half year be good and the subsequent comparison of punishment to Miles Simon. Then the "well, it's not a PED" comment with no follow up or attempt to establish that other than some PGU denial followed by a total thread derailment...

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:10 pm

prh wrote:Yeah where did we credibly establish that it's not PEDs. There was some stuff tossed out here but I think we used a red herring to get away from the PEDs talk.

Where was PEDs credibly established?

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