Coaching searches 2017

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:55 pm

SCCats wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
ALASKACAT wrote:So as a head coach Lane starts with the Raiders, then goes to the Volunteers, then to the Trojans and now Florida Atlantic? I guess high school is the next stop.
The off field issues have to be bad. Alabama's coordinators have got to Colorado State, Georgia and...FAU?
I think he's a smarmy prick and it just oozes out of his pores. ADs probably can't stand to be in the same room as him.
I doubt this is much surprise to anyone, but since there's an actual article on it...

Reference calls to people who worked at USC and Tennessee basically rendered Kiffen unhireable

http://www.yardbarker.com/college_footb ... Redirect=1" target="_blank

Though Kiffin’s name was brought up for multiple jobs across the last three years, nearly all of it was speculation and smoke rather than genuine interest in him. One person with knowledge of the matter, who had investigated Kiffin for a job, said reference calls to people who worked at USC and Tennessee basically rendered him unhireable.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:58 pm

What school will go after Chip Kelly?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:24 pm

Irish27 wrote:What school will go after Chip Kelly?

I cannot believe that Oregon did not.

Notre Dame?

Arizona in 2017?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:49 pm

We don't have the balls for that kind of move even though it would payoff in big ways

In re UofA · Post by **In re UofA** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:22 pm

Kelly make large programs make a move? Maybe A&M, ND or Tenn available. The college game is more fun with him, hope he comes back.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:34 pm

azcat49 wrote:We don't have the balls for that kind of move even though it would payoff in big ways

And what was the main reason we didn't make that move?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:04 pm

cordera89 wrote:
azcat49 wrote:We don't have the balls for that kind of move even though it would payoff in big ways
And what was the main reason we didn't make that move?

His post was speculating on a suggested future move, not a past one. Verb tenses matter.

If Chipper would consider coming here after next season, do you think we should hire him if the team goes 5-7?

Probably not, since next season would represent improvement over this past season's 3-9 campaign - meaning RR would deserve a raise and extension.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:06 pm

In re UofA wrote:Kelly make large programs make a move? Maybe A&M, ND or Tenn available. The college game is more fun with him, hope he comes back.

I doubt A&M will be available... ND should be now. Not sure on Rocky Top...

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:00 am

Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
azcat49 wrote:We don't have the balls for that kind of move even though it would payoff in big ways
And what was the main reason we didn't make that move?
His post was speculating on a suggested future move, not a past one. Verb tenses matter.

If Chipper would consider coming here after next season, do you think we should hire him if the team goes 5-7?

Probably not, since next season would represent improvement over this past season's 3-9 campaign - meaning RR would deserve a raise and extension.

No because it would of been a stepping stone job for him. Kelly would be shooting for high profile job with his resume if he decide to come back to coach college football. UA wouldn't be a likeable destination for him.

The only way RR will get a contract extension is to survive the 2017 season and make a final push in the 2018 season. That were I would draw the line.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:23 pm

cordera89 wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
azcat49 wrote:We don't have the balls for that kind of move even though it would payoff in big ways
And what was the main reason we didn't make that move?
His post was speculating on a suggested future move, not a past one. Verb tenses matter.

If Chipper would consider coming here after next season, do you think we should hire him if the team goes 5-7?

Probably not, since next season would represent improvement over this past season's 3-9 campaign - meaning RR would deserve a raise and extension.
No because it would of been a stepping stone job for him. Kelly would be shooting for high profile job with his resume if he decide to come back to coach college football. UA wouldn't be a likeable destination for him.

The only way RR will get a contract extension is to survive the 2017 season and make a final push in the 2018 season. That were I would draw the line.

Keeping RR past 2017 is as good as giving him a raise and extension, because he will be guaranteed the last installment of his retention bonus - which will not be available for the next coach. That is why I want to see more than just marginal improvement next year to keep him around.

Arizona is unfortunately a stepping stone job for virtually any coach we would hire; it would have been for RR too if he had enough success to attract offers from high profile jobs. The only chance to avoid that would be to hire coach with previous ties to and affinity for the area, or one who falls in love with the desert and establishes roots here (ala Lute). That is pure luck... we need some.

I seriously doubt we could get Kelly... but it would be worth a shot. One thing is for sure... I think he will decide to come back to college football whether he wants to or not - because he's not getting hired by another NFL team anytime soon.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:26 pm

I would be extremely hesitant to hire any coach that had a show cause order dropped on him. Kelly's has expired, but that's attention you don't necessarily want.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:00 pm

azpenguin wrote:I would be extremely hesitant to hire any coach that had a show cause order dropped on him. Kelly's has expired, but that's attention you don't necessarily want.

Jim Tressel's show cause order expired last week. Helluva coach! As they say in show business, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:04 pm

Fat Charlie just smirks.

azpenguin · Post by **azpenguin** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:57 pm

MrMeow wrote:
azpenguin wrote:I would be extremely hesitant to hire any coach that had a show cause order dropped on him. Kelly's has expired, but that's attention you don't necessarily want.

Jim Tressel's show cause order expired last week. Helluva coach! As they say in show business, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

Bad publicity...More like the NCAA keeping closer tabs on you than normal.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:33 am

Lane Kiffen fired.....errrrr, mutually agreed to part ways from Alabama one week before the national championship game.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:34 am

Well he was hired by Florida Atlantic like 3 weeks ago.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:35 am

ASUHATER! wrote:Well he was hired by Florida Atlantic like 3 weeks ago.

I know.

Saban still fired his ass.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:47 am

Sark is his replacement.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:41 pm

Saban going to call offense for the national game?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:44 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Saban going to call offense for the national game?

I hear it's going to be Sark.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:56 pm

He let Kiffin coach the semi but he's gone for the championship?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:08 pm

azgreg wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Saban going to call offense for the national game?
I hear it's going to be Sark.

Your kidding me...

I thought that was just a joke...

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:45 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:
azgreg wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Saban going to call offense for the national game?
I hear it's going to be Sark.
Your kidding me...

I thought that was just a joke...

http://whnt.com/2017/01/02/lane-kiffin- ... ship-game/" target="_blank

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:17 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:He let Kiffin coach the semi but he's gone for the championship?

He did a shit job prepping for the semis.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:31 pm

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:56 am

ASUHATER! wrote:Well he was hired by Florida Atlantic like 3 weeks ago.

Watch Queen Kiff jump to the open Minnesota job next week

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:58 am

doesn't fit his falling down trajectory. his next step is a division II school

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:59 am

He fails up more than anybody. Watch him be in the Buffalo Bills conversation.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:07 am

azgreg wrote:He fails up more than anybody. Watch him be in the Buffalo Bills conversation.

eh his career makes more sense going backwards.

coach at mid major school FAU
gets job as OC at power school Alabama
parlays that into job as HC at USC
decides to be a coach in the SEC at Tennessee to test his mettle
gets a gig in the NFL as an HC for the Raiders.

the real dill · Post by **the real dill** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:21 am

This made me laugh:

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:03 pm

PJ Fleck to Minnesota

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:44 pm

Great fit.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:16 am

Minnesota didn't fuck around. Who says coaching searches need to last months?

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:48 am

Cal fires Sonny Dykes, will they go after Chip Kelly?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:49 am

Im hearing Saban to Niners after his wins that chipper.

Although that could be Niner fan/sports radio wishful thinking.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:52 am

Irish27 wrote:Cal fires Sonny Dykes, will they go after Chip Kelly?

Genuinely surprised by this . . . and then again not so much. Dykes is a dick.

CalStateTempe wrote:Im hearing Saban to Niners after his wins that chipper.

Although that could be Niner fan/sports radio wishful thinking.

Saban can't want that mess. And I doubt he'd trade the ignorance of the NCAA for the meddling of the NFL.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:57 am

Cal's AD finances are a mess. No way they can afford Kelly, although he doesn't need the money.

A search for Dykes’ replacement is expected to begin immediately, with hopes the school will have its new coach in place before the end of this week when recruiting heats up again.

Not sure how that can happen. Being a state school, they need to advertise and such for a standard period.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:58 am

Saban has too much of a great thing going on at Alabama. He is making history there and why leave to the NFL again where he did not succeed?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:15 pm

Totally.

"You can't fire the owner" sums up the current state of the Niners.

Jed York at a pressor this past week.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:35 pm

This does sound familiar, doesn't it?

Wilner:

However, Dykes has not-so-secretly interviewed for several coaching vacancies in the past 13 months. Recently, he was reportedly a candidate for the Baylor vacancy.

Dykes’ support within the Cal administration has waned because of his wandering eye and because of the Bears’ poor performance on the field in 2016

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:17 pm

Dykes' wandering eye has been strictly about extorting more money/years out of Cal. RR's flirtations have been about the fact he considers UofA a stepping stone back to something "bigger".

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:31 pm

Dykes getting fired right now is quality entertainment.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:35 pm

Couldn't happen to a better guy.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:50 pm

Chicat wrote:Dykes' wandering eye has been strictly about extorting more money/years out of Cal. RR's flirtations have been about the fact he considers UofA a stepping stone back to something "bigger".

I get what you are saying about that, but I am not sure I agree.

I think both of them have believed they were better than their current jobs, and both want more money.

If RR was "just about a bigger job", he would either have left for So Carolina (i.e., if he saw it as a bigger job) OR not even interviewed for the job. I'll always believe he would have bolted if only they had offered him a pay raise.

Regardless, I am not sure it matters. Any more than either of our wives would care about the reason we were trying to bang another chick at the office.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:11 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
Chicat wrote:Dykes' wandering eye has been strictly about extorting more money/years out of Cal. RR's flirtations have been about the fact he considers UofA a stepping stone back to something "bigger".
I get what you are saying about that, but I am not sure I agree.

I think both of them have believed they were better than their current jobs, and both want more money.

If RR was "just about a bigger job", he would either have left for So Carolina (i.e., if he saw it as a bigger job) OR not even interviewed for the job. I'll always believe he would have bolted if only they had offered him a pay raise.

Regardless, I am not sure it matters. Any more than either of our wives would care about the reason we were trying to bang another chick at the office.

I think RR very much regrets saying no to Alabama. S.Carolina was an opportunity to get a little closer to getting back to those kinds of opportunities.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:01 pm

His only regret was leaving West Virginia for Michigan.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:21 pm

If you say so Cordy.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:25 pm

Chicat wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
Chicat wrote:Dykes' wandering eye has been strictly about extorting more money/years out of Cal. RR's flirtations have been about the fact he considers UofA a stepping stone back to something "bigger".
I get what you are saying about that, but I am not sure I agree.

I think both of them have believed they were better than their current jobs, and both want more money.

If RR was "just about a bigger job", he would either have left for So Carolina (i.e., if he saw it as a bigger job) OR not even interviewed for the job. I'll always believe he would have bolted if only they had offered him a pay raise.

Regardless, I am not sure it matters. Any more than either of our wives would care about the reason we were trying to bang another chick at the office.
I think RR very much regrets saying no to Alabama. S.Carolina was an opportunity to get a little closer to getting back to those kinds of opportunities.

Could be. If so, he needs to look back at what Bama was for most of the many years (sans Stallings) between Bear and Saban... because that's the range for what he would have done there & they'd have run his ass off after a few seasons. If he thinks he'd be doing anything close to what Saban has he is really delusional...

Saban has killed it at Bama for a lot of reasons... not the least of which is he sends a TON of guys to the NFL. No gimmicky schemes.

I don't think he believes this, but IMO he should have never left Morgantown.

I have always held him a lot more responsible for his failure at Michigan than most here do, or used to.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:42 pm

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