Game 8, at UNLV (2017-2018)

luteformayor2 · Post by **luteformayor2** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:53 pm

I am sick and fucking tired of Miller's unwillingness to make crucial changes such as playing zone.

I am close to done with Miller, don't care, lost my support.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:54 pm

SCCats wrote:
Postmaster wrote:
Captain Obvious wrote:A zone might be the only defense this team can play. Risky but worth a shot.
More chance of Arizona using the rare 6 player defense.
I'm willing to try it.

And yes I mean trying to get six guys on the floor.

The sad thing is I dont think it would help. Maybe we can bring back Kadeem or Rondae and give them Dylan Smith's jersey.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:54 pm

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:55 pm

Merkin wrote:How embarrassing for Miller. His players don't even care.

They care. But they're paralyzed when they need to flow and they're rushing it when they need to be patient. I think he's got them freaked out.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:55 pm

12 seconds left
Give ball to 2-guard
Dribble until 2 seconds left
Take a bad 3
Even if you get rebound, won't have time for a second shot
Possible top three draft pick? Don't give him ball

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:55 pm

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:58 pm

Debating if I should watch the 2nd half or just keep watching the UFC fights.

AztoCa · Post by **AztoCa** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:58 pm

Is this Ben Howland 2.0? ( The team maybe sick of the coach)

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:58 pm

Ristic has 2 rebounds. So does Barcello. Please tell me again why we need to play two 7 footers?

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:59 pm

I'd settle for getting bob Elliot into somebody's uniform and getting him to play

AZMoon · Post by **AZMoon** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:59 pm

No chemistry. These guys don't know how to play together. This is weird considering they had the extra practice time from the Euro trip. Guard play is horrible. There is no one to take control when things break down.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:00 pm

legallykenny wrote:Dylan Smith isn’t a high major D-1 basketball player. What the fuck is he doing on this roster much less on the floor?

He looks out of place unless there's no one within 15 feet of him.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:01 pm

I'd go small and Play:
PJC
Barcello/Randolph
Trier
Lee/Pinder
Ayton

Maybe even just let Akot try to play? Can he be much worse?

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:03 pm

That Spain thing was a cluster

And did Ayton play in Spain?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:05 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:Debating if I should watch the 2nd half or just keep watching the UFC fights.

I didn't even turn it on. Watching more British Bakeoffs.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:07 pm

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:08 pm

Longhorned wrote:
SunnyAZ wrote:Debating if I should watch the 2nd half or just keep watching the UFC fights.
I didn't even turn it on. Watching more British Bakeoffs.

I'm tempted to return to reading "The Big Burn". It's an instructive catastrophe.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:09 pm

Even the broadcaster is saying Ristic can't play with Ayton. He said Pinder would be a better option. Get him out of there!

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:12 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:
Merkin wrote:How embarrassing for Miller. His players don't even care.
They care. But they're paralyzed when they need to flow and they're rushing it when they need to be patient. I think he's got them freaked out.

If this is paralysis, this is the softest team I have ever seen. Its just the wrong group of guys. The three upperclassmen are career defensive liabilities, or close, and none of them have a leadership bone in their bodies. I didnt include Pinder, because he's a guy who should be never getting minutes on an Arizona roster unless we are in severe foul trouble or have multiple injuries. Add the Alkins injury, and a handful of freshmen (and Smith, who plays like one) who were all thrown into prominent roles and dont have real vets to pick up the slack/lead, and here we are.

Ayton is one of the best players in the country. He is the only reason this season has any hope right now.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:12 pm

Did Ristic place some $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on UNLV tonight???????

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:13 pm

Ristic must have incriminating pictures of Miller.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:13 pm

Our switches are so fucked up we end up with 2 defenders on one ball handler.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:14 pm

Oh my God get Ristic of the floor. I dont care if we play 4 guys. He is horrible. Miller threatens to bench people with no effort but Ristic somehow plays all game....this is pathetic.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:14 pm

rgdeuce wrote:
dovecanyoncat wrote:
Merkin wrote:How embarrassing for Miller. His players don't even care.
They care. But they're paralyzed when they need to flow and they're rushing it when they need to be patient. I think he's got them freaked out.
If this is paralysis, this is the softest team I have ever seen. Its just the wrong group of guys. The three upperclassmen are career defensive liabilities, or close, and none of them have a leadership bone in their bodies. I didnt include Pinder, because he's a guy who should be never getting minutes on an Arizona roster unless we are in severe trouble or have multiple injuries. Add the Alkins injury, and a handful of freshmen (and Smith, who plays like one) who were all thrown into prominent roles and dont have real vets to pick up the slack/lead, and here we are.

Ayton is one of the best players in the country. He is the only reason this season has any hope right now.

Excellent summary of our problems. The one and done nature of our program has finally caught up to us......coupled with the lack of a point guard

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:14 pm

Merkin wrote:

So theyre soft. Boo hoo, you lost a coach u loved. And he loved u too, so much he intended to exploit you and your fanilies.

CatMG · Post by **CatMG** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:16 pm

Unreal how bad this team is. I guess the only bright spot is that I imagine worrying about Miller to N.C. is not a thing anymore....is it?

AZMoon · Post by **AZMoon** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:18 pm

Too many three point shots. that's not our game.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:19 pm

dmjcat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
dovecanyoncat wrote:
Merkin wrote:How embarrassing for Miller. His players don't even care.
They care. But they're paralyzed when they need to flow and they're rushing it when they need to be patient. I think he's got them freaked out.
If this is paralysis, this is the softest team I have ever seen. Its just the wrong group of guys. The three upperclassmen are career defensive liabilities, or close, and none of them have a leadership bone in their bodies. I didnt include Pinder, because he's a guy who should be never getting minutes on an Arizona roster unless we are in severe trouble or have multiple injuries. Add the Alkins injury, and a handful of freshmen (and Smith, who plays like one) who were all thrown into prominent roles and dont have real vets to pick up the slack/lead, and here we are.

Ayton is one of the best players in the country. He is the only reason this season has any hope right now.
Excellent summary of our problems. The one and done nature of our program has finally caught up to us......coupled with the lack of a point guard

Then the Packline defense coupled with Miller's recruiting is not a durable combination in the one and done environment when each year we lose 60% of our team and end up with the upperclassmen we have now.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:20 pm

Trier sounds awful on radio. Has he done anything in this game. He isn't even good enough to be a starter right now.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:20 pm

They really play so much better with Ristic off the floor and Randolph in.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:21 pm

Catintheheat wrote:Trier sounds awful on radio. Has he done anything in this game. He isn't even good enough to be a starter right now.

Some good, some ugly. Usual Trier.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:21 pm

rgdeuce wrote:
Merkin wrote:
So theyre soft. Boo hoo, you lost a coach u loved. And he loved u too, so much he intended to exploit you and your fanilies.

Let's go from "Poor me, to screw you."

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:22 pm

billk78 wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:Trier sounds awful on radio. Has he done anything in this game. He isn't even good enough to be a starter right now.
Some good, some ugly. Usual Trier.

He just needs to do what he is effective at tonight..........driving to the hole. He can't hit the Mediterranean standing on the Rock of Gibraltar tonight.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:22 pm

Trier 0-5 on 3 point shots. Don't remember any of them being really good shots, unlike the 2 wide open ones Barcello missed.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:25 pm

Nice acting job

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:26 pm

Homer call, 4 point swing due to it.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:26 pm

By my count, 14 of their first 19 made field goals came off layup, dunks, or tip ins.

Edit: looks like theyve added a few more

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:27 pm

Two guys guarding the same man, again.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:27 pm

This is a fucking embarrassment. We're going to get killed on Tuesday.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:27 pm

And right on cue our senior PG has two back to back bone-headed plays

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:28 pm

This team is bad, real bad. No chemistry, no flow. Bad shooting. Bad D. Alkins will help but will not turn this into a final 4 team. They are athletic, just not good basketball players. It is such a shame to see that Ayton will waste a year in Tucson..he is a once in a generation player. This, along with the FBI investigation, should turn any half decent recruits away. Miller might have the be let go.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:28 pm

dmjcat wrote:And right on cue our senior PG has two back to back bone-headed plays

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:28 pm

Miller's losing it.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:28 pm

Get Barcello back in. I'd rather lose and get the freshmen some experience than lose and watch Ristic and PJC continue to suck

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:30 pm

Don't like this lineup at all

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:30 pm

IMO
Dusan plays better when he is the only big man
Thought this back when he and Tark played together

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:30 pm

UALoco wrote:This team is bad, real bad. No chemistry, no flow. Bad shooting. Bad D. Alkins will help but will not turn this into a final 4 team. They are athletic, just not good basketball players. It is such a shame to see that Ayton will waste a year in Tucson..he is a once in a generation player. This, along with the FBI investigation, should turn any half decent recruits away. Miller might have the be let go.

Sorry, but there is no way I would dump Miller that fast.

I do want to see how Miller recruits going forward without Book. Has our past
recruiting been real or did we just $pay$ more than the other guy?

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:33 pm

A pullup jumper. I'll be damned!

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:33 pm

Where is Akot?

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:34 pm

Ristic much better with Ayton out.

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