Arizona Coaching Search

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:29 pm

azpenguin wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:PASS.
Les Miles says "what's that?"

Funny, so did Rich Rod.

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:34 pm

UALoco wrote:My guess is that the AD is tapped after giving RR 6MM to leave and needs a donor to commit to 3-4MM a year(on top of what the AD can pay which is maybe 2-3MM/yr) for the next five years to sign Miles or Sumlin.

My dog could plan better than that. RR under investigation since October, Heeke allegedly resolved to fire RR long ago, and insufficient money in place for RR's replacement? Unlikely.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:38 pm

Is admitting to an affair "just cause"?

Extremely doubtful in today's world.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:41 pm

Here's your latest:

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:43 pm

No way on Troy Brown. Good coach with zero west coast connections. Zero. I just Tweeted about him a few days ago too.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:45 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Hard pass on Helfrich and Rich Rod part deux (Les Miles)
Les Miles isn't RR part deux as he can actually recruit and has won a lot before.
Rich recruited very well at Michigan and did win a lot previously. Next?

I get your concern. I am not 100% certain that Miles is the guy... but we could do a lot worse.

But stop being ridiculous. DickRod's 6-18/15-22 record in Ann Arbor is damn near a carbon copy of what Lester did in Baton Rouge.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:58 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Hard pass on Helfrich and Rich Rod part deux (Les Miles)
Les Miles isn't RR part deux as he can actually recruit and has won a lot before.
Rich recruited very well at Michigan and did win a lot previously. Next?
I get your concern. I am not 100% certain that Miles is the guy... but we could do a lot worse.

But stop being ridiculous. DickRod's 6-18/15-22 record in Ann Arbor is damn near a carbon copy of what Lester did in Baton Rouge.

Ok that's fair, but I have a better question for you Harvey. Can you name a coach who got fired from a P5 job that moved on to success at another P5 job?

Either way if Les was 10 years younger I'd be full on Viagra erect at the prospect of him as our coach. I've seen too many guys on the opposite end of this age either start a downtrend at their current jobs or never be able to repeat their success from a decade earlier. In our case Les would have to run an entire makeover of our defense and hope to god he can hire a competent OC that can work with Tate until Desert Swarm 2.0 is reborn. Tall order for a guy on the wrong side of 60. In basketball it's certainly possible primarily because all you need is a couple of top notch players to succeed, but in football it's infinitely more difficult.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:59 pm

chiefzona wrote:No way on Troy Brown. Good coach with zero west coast connections. Zero. I just Tweeted about him a few days ago too.

If you can get Brown with 9 assistants heavily connected with the west coast then bring him on, but yeah good luck on the recruiting end unless that occurs. I do like Brown however.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:00 pm

Merkin wrote:Is admitting to an affair "just cause"?

Extremely doubtful in today's world.

If that was the case we would've had cause to fire Stoops. Cheating on your wife isn't a crime that I'm aware of so no dice there.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:05 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:No way on Troy Brown. Good coach with zero west coast connections. Zero. I just Tweeted about him a few days ago too.
If you can get Brown with 9 assistants heavily connected with the west coast then bring him on, but yeah good luck on the recruiting end unless that occurs. I do like Brown however.

Neal. Not Troy. Neal.

BearDown89 · Post by **BearDown89** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:06 pm

BearDown89 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:No way on Troy Brown. Good coach with zero west coast connections. Zero. I just Tweeted about him a few days ago too.
If you can get Brown with 9 assistants heavily connected with the west coast then bring him on, but yeah good luck on the recruiting end unless that occurs. I do like Brown however.
Neal. Not Troy. Neal.

Seems Lev's in on it now too.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:09 pm

Merkin wrote:Is admitting to an affair "just cause"?

Extremely doubtful in today's world.

Nope, that's why they're paying him 6 mil.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:12 pm

chiefzona wrote:No way on Troy Brown. Good coach with zero west coast connections. Zero. I just Tweeted about him a few days ago too.

If he changed his first name to match the school he coaches at, he seems pretty committed to them and we might not be able to pull him.

HaCats · Post by **HaCats** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:13 pm

Good God. If we hire the Troy coach I'm going to flip my shit. It's scary how much I find myself agreeing with Chief when it comes to this search.

Would be nice if we could find someone who wouldn't come off as such a total outsider. That doesn't mean the guy we hire has to be from Arizona, but for the love of God can it please be somebody who is not from the east coast or deep south.....with zero West Coast connections, who would view Tucson akin to Mars.

I spent last night youtubing Baldwin interviews and pregame pep talks and he strikes me as someone who 'would fit' in Tucson.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:16 pm

The deeper we get in the search, the more comfortable I am with an alum... I'm scared this won't end well.

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:16 pm

BearDown89 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
chiefzona wrote:No way on Troy Brown. Good coach with zero west coast connections. Zero. I just Tweeted about him a few days ago too.
If you can get Brown with 9 assistants heavily connected with the west coast then bring him on, but yeah good luck on the recruiting end unless that occurs. I do like Brown however.
Neal. Not Troy. Neal.

Neal is a bad word.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:21 pm

btfd16 wrote:The deeper we get in the search, the more comfortable I am with an alum... I'm scared this won't end well.

Or maybe Heeke is waiting to talk to someone who is coaching tonight.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:23 pm

azgreg wrote:
btfd16 wrote:The deeper we get in the search, the more comfortable I am with an alum... I'm scared this won't end well.
Or maybe Heeke is waiting to talk to someone who is coaching tonight.

We're getting Nick Saban?!

chiefzona · Post by **chiefzona** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:24 pm

Tosh Lupoi

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:25 pm

I'm just spit balling here.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:29 pm

Isn't he essentially DC in waiting at Bama? Other than the co-title this year, he wasn't ever a DC was he? All I remember from him was being an insanely good recruiter.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:33 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seccou ... 12-job/amp" target="_blank

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:33 pm

btfd16 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
btfd16 wrote:The deeper we get in the search, the more comfortable I am with an alum... I'm scared this won't end well.
Or maybe Heeke is waiting to talk to someone who is coaching tonight.
We're getting Nick Saban?!

Dabo is younger, so if we're choosing...

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:36 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
btfd16 wrote:The deeper we get in the search, the more comfortable I am with an alum... I'm scared this won't end well.
Or maybe Heeke is waiting to talk to someone who is coaching tonight.
We're getting Nick Saban?!
Dabo is younger, so if we're choosing...

But he isn't coaching tonight. I'll take Kirby I guess.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:44 pm

It would be nice to see what Lupoi could do with Schooler.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:47 pm

This may be naïve of me (plus we just mentioned him randomly, he may not even be a thought), but Tosh Lupoi makes me more excited than Beau Baldwin. I think the name resonates more with recruits and the Saban family tree isn't so bad. Have a strong feeling that if he did not keep Yates, he'd take a long look at Salavea for DC. Familiarity from UW/Wazzu days.

EDIT: Imagine that Poly pipeline.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:23 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
btfd16 wrote:The deeper we get in the search, the more comfortable I am with an alum... I'm scared this won't end well.
Or maybe Heeke is waiting to talk to someone who is coaching tonight.
We're getting Nick Saban?!
Dabo is younger, so if we're choosing...

Let's just make Jimbo an offer and get this over with already.

HaCats · Post by **HaCats** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:35 pm

where is Heeke now, is that known? It seems this search has been really light on rumors and speculation, don't know if that's cause Heeke's doing a good job of keeping it private.....or because there just hasn't been much to speculate on.

Scummy Dick Douglas · Post by **Scummy Dick Douglas** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:44 pm

Unfounded speculation: Tim Drevno will be your next head football coach.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:46 pm

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:Unfounded speculation: Tim Drevno will be your next head football coach.

Googling.............hmmm. What makes you think so?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:48 pm

Comments about Drevno on Twitter aren't very flattering.

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:23 pm

Another twitter feed reporting Sumlin, per school source.

https://twitter.com/RydquistSports/stat ... twterm%5E0" target="_blank

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:26 pm

ramcat wrote:Another twitter source reporting Sumlin.

https://twitter.com/RydquistSports/stat ... twterm%5E0" target="_blank

Man I hope he's right. Don't see how he'd know, but I hope he's right.

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:28 pm

ramcat wrote:Another twitter feed reporting Sumlin, per school source.

https://twitter.com/RydquistSports/stat ... twterm%5E0" target="_blank

Maybe it's Slumlin at HC and Baldwin at OC and Yates at DC

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:30 pm

ramcat wrote:Another twitter feed reporting Sumlin, per school source.

https://twitter.com/RydquistSports/stat ... twterm%5E0" target="_blank

I mean if the go to for Michigan sports who has 37 followers says so then it must be true.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:35 pm

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:37 pm

If Heeke actually pulls off a Sumlin hire I will be truly impressed. Sumlin would be a Grand Slam type hire.

Talk about getting Wildcat Football Nation excited again.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:40 pm

Gladiator Cat wrote:If Heeke actually pulls off a Sumlin hire I will be truly impressed. Sumlin would be a Grand Slam type hire.

Talk about getting Wildcat Football Nation excited again.

My thoughts as well. Amazing magician if so.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:42 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:

All of the coaches have water bottles the color of their school. COME ON DOWN

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:44 pm

Chief has said in the past Heeke was in over his head. If he pulls this off I think we can confidently lay that to rest.

I'm skeptical he can pull it off, but anything is possible.

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:47 pm

What channel are the coaches on?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:57 pm

prh wrote:What channel are the coaches on?

They were on ESPN2.

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:07 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
prh wrote:What channel are the coaches on?
They were on ESPN2.

ESPNews for the rest of the night apparently

ramcat · Post by **ramcat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:14 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
ramcat wrote:Another twitter feed reporting Sumlin, per school source.

https://twitter.com/RydquistSports/stat ... twterm%5E0" target="_blank
I mean if the go to for Michigan sports who has 37 followers says so then it must be true.

Lol! I hear ya but per school source, caught my attn.. Who knows but was looking for something else following previous tweet, which stated Sumlin would be announced Tuesday, also by supposed school source.
Hopeful but still waiting for something definitive.
Hey, the board source Chief, announced this was being looked at weeks ago.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:21 pm

This is starting to feel like a game AZ is getting blown out in so I flip the channel. Look and see its close late, start watching only to see the other team go up big again.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:27 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Hard pass on Helfrich and Rich Rod part deux (Les Miles)
ANY and I mean it ANY school minus LSU, Bama and Ohio State would have given Miles a lifetime deal
Sell me on Les being anything other than Rich Rod v2.0 minus the banging other women repeatedly of course.

Actually, in reality Sumlin is MUCH closer to being RRod 2.0 than Miles is. Sumlin is an offensive minded coach with a shitty defensive record......who has an overall winning percentage closer to RRod. Miles is the Anti-RRod.........Defense first coach with a significantly better overall record.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:33 pm

dmjcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Hard pass on Helfrich and Rich Rod part deux (Les Miles)
ANY and I mean it ANY school minus LSU, Bama and Ohio State would have given Miles a lifetime deal
Sell me on Les being anything other than Rich Rod v2.0 minus the banging other women repeatedly of course.

Actually, in reality Sumlin is MUCH closer to being RRod 2.0 than Miles is. Sumlin is an offensive minded coach with a shitty defensive record......who has an overall winning percentage closer to RRod. Miles is the Anti-RRod.........Defense first coach with a significantly better overall record.

You're right plus Sumlin and Rich Rod are roughly the same age, while Miles is 10 years their senior. Sign me up, old guys have tons of energy and recruit great, especially to Arizona when they hire assistants that they know and are familiar with who have zero ties to the west coast.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:41 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
dmjcat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:Hard pass on Helfrich and Rich Rod part deux (Les Miles)
ANY and I mean it ANY school minus LSU, Bama and Ohio State would have given Miles a lifetime deal
Sell me on Les being anything other than Rich Rod v2.0 minus the banging other women repeatedly of course.

Actually, in reality Sumlin is MUCH closer to being RRod 2.0 than Miles is. Sumlin is an offensive minded coach with a shitty defensive record......who has an overall winning percentage closer to RRod. Miles is the Anti-RRod.........Defense first coach with a significantly better overall record.
You're right plus Sumlin and Rich Rod are roughly the same age, while Miles is 10 years their senior. Sign me up, old guys have tons of energy and recruit great, especially to Arizona.

Fact: Miles had better recruiting classes (EVERY Year) in the SEC than the younger Sumlin. So much for youth.

Fact: Sumlins average National Defensive Ranking at A&M (with much better recruiting than RRod) was 82nd nationally.......RRod Clone

3rdand25 · Post by **3rdand25** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:43 pm

Gladiator Cat wrote:Chief has said in the past Heeke was in over his head. If he pulls this off I think we can confidently lay that to rest.

I'm skeptical he can pull it off, but anything is possible.

The AD who was in over his head was Greg Byrne. I'm sure he learned a lot and can do a better job at Alabama.

Don't know who Heeke will hire, but I hope it will be better than the RR hire.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:26 pm

Watching NC ESPN Coach's Film Room, Sumlin is awfully quiet like his mind is on something else. David Cutcliffe is outclassing the rest.

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