Pac 12 Expanding Schedule?

[zonagrad]

Not sure if this needs its own thread but I thought it would generate some good discussion. Looks like the wheels are moving for a 20 game conference schedule. And Miller is leading the charge.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/30/ ... ore-sense/" target="_blank

[PieceOfMeat]

One of the few things I always liked about the pac10 was the fact we had a full home and home schedule for every team in the league (when other conferences didn't). I've never liked the unbalanced schedules we've had in the pac12 since expansion. (so yes, I'd even be for expanding to 22, but at least with 20 you can get rid of missing teams entirely)

I think it's funny though that Miller is quoted as saying “It’s the way the sport is going,’’ Miller said. “We don’t want to be the conference that needs a couple years to catch up.” .... and yet .... the pac is already trying to play catch up with other conferences that have (or are) expanding their schedules.

[ChooChooCat]

As long as it guarantees two yearly matchups with UCLA sign me up.

[DrWildcat]

Hopefully we replace 2 garbage non-conference games.

[Longhorned]

Please just get it done.

[Olsondogg]

Also this idea of playing teams twice before playing others at all is ridiculous

[ChooChooCat]

Also this idea of playing teams twice before playing others at all is ridiculous

Amen.

This along with just eliminating travel partners already needs to happen.

[Olsondogg]

Also this idea of playing teams twice before playing others at all is ridiculous

Amen.

This along with just eliminating travel partners already needs to happen.

Yeah I think that idea was pre charter when maybe it made more sense.

[PHXCATS]

Also this idea of playing teams twice before playing others at all is ridiculous

Amen.

This along with just eliminating travel partners already needs to happen.

What the issue with playing some schools twice and not other ones once yet? All the other conferences are in the same boat.

I love the travel partners still. Makes it unique for the conference and I loive the tradition of it

[Olsondogg]

Yup. Of course....knew that was coming.

[Spaceman Spiff]

As long as it guarantees two yearly matchups with UCLA sign me up.

20 is still slightly unbalanced. Regardless of the outcome of that, I would like a schedule that guarantees home and home with all divisional opponents so any lack of balance comes from the other division. It is the strategy most likely to drive rivalries.

[ChooChooCat]

As long as it guarantees two yearly matchups with UCLA sign me up.

20 is still slightly unbalanced. Regardless of the outcome of that, I would like a schedule that guarantees home and home with all divisional opponents so any lack of balance comes from the other division. It is the strategy most likely to drive rivalries.

Which conference member are we lacking in a rivalry with exactly that this is a concern for you?

[Spaceman Spiff]

As long as it guarantees two yearly matchups with UCLA sign me up.

20 is still slightly unbalanced. Regardless of the outcome of that, I would like a schedule that guarantees home and home with all divisional opponents so any lack of balance comes from the other division. It is the strategy most likely to drive rivalries.

Which conference member are we lacking in a rivalry with exactly that this is a concern for you?

Not sure of your question. Guaranteed home and homes with divisional opponents means we get a guarantee of home and home with the schools in our division (and thus geographically close). For us, that's the LA, Rocky mountains and ASU.

By limiting to divisions, it helps guarantee max games against the closest schools to you, who are also the most natural rivals. That is why this is the biggest thing for me.

[PHXCATS]

As long as it guarantees two yearly matchups with UCLA sign me up.

20 is still slightly unbalanced. Regardless of the outcome of that, I would like a schedule that guarantees home and home with all divisional opponents so any lack of balance comes from the other division. It is the strategy most likely to drive rivalries.

Which conference member are we lacking in a rivalry with exactly that this is a concern for you?

Not sure of your question. Guaranteed home and homes with divisional opponents means we get a guarantee of home and home with the schools in our division (and thus geographically close). For us, that's the LA, Rocky mountains and ASU.

By limiting to divisions, it helps guarantee max games against the closest schools to you, who are also the most natural rivals. That is why this is the biggest thing for me.

I dont have as much of an issue with missing UCLA and USC every so often. But this will reduce it even more than now. I am good with it. Even better if the schedule of misses isnt done years and year in advance like this time around.

[NYCat]

Pac 12 needs to get rid of the antiquated travel partner & Thursday/Saturday games. It needs to be more along the lines of B1G or ACCs.

[UALoco]

We need to play the south division schools twice a year. No reason to play the beavers twice when you only have one game with UCLA.

[ChooChooCat]

As long as it guarantees two yearly matchups with UCLA sign me up.

20 is still slightly unbalanced. Regardless of the outcome of that, I would like a schedule that guarantees home and home with all divisional opponents so any lack of balance comes from the other division. It is the strategy most likely to drive rivalries.

Which conference member are we lacking in a rivalry with exactly that this is a concern for you?

Not sure of your question. Guaranteed home and homes with divisional opponents means we get a guarantee of home and home with the schools in our division (and thus geographically close). For us, that's the LA, Rocky mountains and ASU.

By limiting to divisions, it helps guarantee max games against the closest schools to you, who are also the most natural rivals. That is why this is the biggest thing for me.

I just don't see the purpose for divisions in basketball scheduling, in fact the one conference who used to do it (SEC) cancelled doing it because it didn't make much sense.

If we're playing 20 games, which sounds like it will very much be the case, we'll miss one road game and one home game against a conference foe. I think every rivalry will survive if we miss one here and there.

[Alieberman]

What is the issue with traveling partners?

I always thought it was 1 thing the Pac did right. I always liked the idea of So Cal week or Oregon week. What am I missing?

[PHXCATS]

Pac 12 needs to get rid of the antiquated travel partner & Thursday/Saturday games. It needs to be more along the lines of B1G or ACCs.

Why?

It is fun, saves on travel, prepares well for the NCAA tournament, and is tradition.

[NYCat]

Pac 12 needs to get rid of the antiquated travel partner & Thursday/Saturday games. It needs to be more along the lines of B1G or ACCs.

Why?

It is fun, saves on travel, prepares well for the NCAA tournament, and is tradition.

No pac 12 team has won a 'ship since 1997

[PHXCATS]

Pac 12 needs to get rid of the antiquated travel partner & Thursday/Saturday games. It needs to be more along the lines of B1G or ACCs.

Why?

It is fun, saves on travel, prepares well for the NCAA tournament, and is tradition.

No pac 12 team has won a 'ship since 1997

And you contribute that mostly to the travel schedule with travel partners?

[ChooChooCat]

Pac 12 needs to get rid of the antiquated travel partner & Thursday/Saturday games. It needs to be more along the lines of B1G or ACCs.

Why?

It is fun, saves on travel, prepares well for the NCAA tournament, and is tradition.

Every team charters to their games, so the saving money on travel thing goes right out the window when you're chartering. The travel partner deal is an issue because 1. It limits what days of the week you can play your games & 2. You're taking what are supposed to be "student athletes" away from school for pretty much an entire week (especially in Arizona's case this week).

If we get rid of the travel partners then you can play a home game on a Monday or Tuesday, then go to Seattle or whatever on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, whatever and vice versa.

As far as tradition goes that shit went out the window the day we added Colorado & Utah, so spare me. Oh and it's fun? Ooooook....?

[NYCat]

Pac 12 needs to get rid of the antiquated travel partner & Thursday/Saturday games. It needs to be more along the lines of B1G or ACCs.

Why?

It is fun, saves on travel, prepares well for the NCAA tournament, and is tradition.

No pac 12 team has won a 'ship since 1997

And you contribute that mostly to the travel schedule with travel partners?

You said that, you said it helps prepare teams for the NCAA tournament. But no teams from this conference have won it all since Arizona. So is it really preparing teams?

[NYCat]

I we didn't have travel partners Arizona would've had one game at an LA school this year and wouldn't have gone to Rado/'Tah back to back games on short rest

[Longhorned]

Plus, ASU proving they suck eternally, so teams focusing week’s prep on Arizona.

[PHXCATS]

I we didn't have travel partners Arizona would've had one game at an LA school this year and wouldn't have gone to Rado/'Tah back to back games on short rest

So maybe U of A wins that one, but it could go against U of A as well. Not 100% sure U of A is 9-0 and not 8-1 right now with different travel schedules/partners/etc