2017-2018 Arizona Basketball

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:04 am

EVCat wrote:If the NCAA feels the pressure and fixes this Trier thing (or a lawyer makes sure the NCAA is not using a dehydrated test to restrict future earnings)...

...and the spreadsheet shows nothing related to Arizona...

...could we? Be back to normal?

Yeah but with callouses.

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:40 am

This FBI thing is starting to feel like everyone & everything is about to come down & college basketball (as we know it) is about to change - a lot. Maybe not in the next couple months...but it sure looks like that's what's coming. The releasing and leaking of this information has been slowly for a reason. I'm just not sure anyone but the super high ups know what that is.

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:04 am

What exactly is gonna change? The rules? Outside sources are paying players who the hell cares.

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:08 am

CatHoops wrote:What exactly is gonna change? The rules? Outside sources are paying players who the hell cares.

The upside I guess is that the fans don't care. But if the entire sport is corrupt & the FBI is trying to prove it - doesn't it seem like this could result in an overhaul of some sort? Or are they just gonna keep chipping away at a player here, school there? I admittedly have no idea. Just seems massive to me.

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:18 am

Don't see how a school can police family and agents making deals it's not possible. They make it headline ncaa scandal cause that grabs a big audience.

CatHoops · Post by **CatHoops** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:30 am

The fact this info is getting leaked out makes me think the case is falling apart

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:35 am

CatHoops wrote:The fact this info is getting leaked out makes me think the case is falling apart

The issue of the leaks is that none of these things are Federal crimes (other than the money laundering stuff)...the only way this goes forward is if the Universities remain "victims"...because of NCAA violations...

In other words the FBI's case depends on the NCAA rules...that is the only way the Universities can be the victim, but this gets really dicey because of the Universities are benefiting by illegally recruiting players they are no longer victims but perpetrators violating NCAA rules...

At this point the University of Arizona is one of the FEW colleges that can claim being a victim here because of Book...this may actually turn out in our favor

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:37 am

Bear Down Vegas wrote:
CatHoops wrote:What exactly is gonna change? The rules? Outside sources are paying players who the hell cares.
The upside I guess is that the fans don't care. But if the entire sport is corrupt & the FBI is trying to prove it - doesn't it seem like this could result in an overhaul of some sort? Or are they just gonna keep chipping away at a player here, school there? I admittedly have no idea. Just seems massive to me.

If you actually care about NCAA rules, today brought out that over 20 top programs had players on the court who were ineligible for receipt of extra benefits from ASM.

The more philosophical question is whether that's actually corrupt. An agency that makes money representing athletes paid money to athletes it wanted to represent. It's basically direct compensation for a skill. In America, that's cool unless you're a NCAA athlete.

Personally, I could care less if agents want to bankroll players. Money for talent is fine. The only part I get hacked off about is that Arizona has been dragged through the mud this season despite virtually all the top 20 having played a kid who got extra benefits.

This is the system. As long as you don't run the holier than thou game, I don't care. If you're Tad Boyle attacking Arizona, I want the spreadsheets to have your players on it.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:04 am

It's weird that getting "Allonzo Trier-ed" is going to eventually mean the opposite of getting Allonzo cleared.

EOCT · Post by **EOCT** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:06 pm

Alieberman wrote:PJC was just ruled to be "too small" from the NCAA.

Suspended for the rest of the year.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:23 pm

tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:27 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy

We should play them all.

This season is basically a race to see who vacates what anyways.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:29 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
SunnyAZ wrote:tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy
We should play them all.

This season is basically a race to see who vacates what anyways.

Yep, all the teams in trouble can have their own tournament.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:32 pm

azgreg wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
SunnyAZ wrote:tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy
We should play them all.

This season is basically a race to see who vacates what anyways.
Yep, all the teams in trouble can have their own tournament.

That's pretty much just the regular tournament at this point.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:18 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
SunnyAZ wrote:tomorrow we get a preview of what the next couple of years will be like

no ayton, no trier, no miller

hope we enjoy
We should play them all.

This season is basically a race to see who vacates what anyways.

Totally, its what the people want to see anyways.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:07 pm

sounds like our game tomorrow is highly anticipated, so that is good.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:27 am

Has Lee finished his concussion protocol in time for tonight's game at Oregon?

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:30 am

DiehardDave37 wrote:Has Lee finished his concussion protocol in time for tonight's game at Oregon?

On pregame for the Oregon State game BJ said Lee didn't make the trip so I highly doubt it.

RiseAndFire · Post by **RiseAndFire** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:16 am

its not like Miller was going to do anything anyways in March, yet he's treated like a god still today

The tombstone will read Sean Miller Era:
2009-2018
7 Recruiting Final Fours, 0 Actual Final Fours, 3 Elite Eights, 2 FBI Wiretaps

I can't believe people are sticking up for this crook. Have some dignity

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:53 am

This was my first thought this morning. I’m praying for more news from other schools so that whatever we did or didn’t do looks more and more like par for the course (which it obviously is).

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:58 am

Chicat wrote:
This was my first thought this morning. I’m praying for more news from other schools so that whatever we did or didn’t do looks more and more like par for the course (which it obviously is).

But, Chi, don’t you think ADs/coaches/admins from the schools named are in dialogue with lawyers and the NCAA trying to manage the fallout from all of this as much as possible? CBS too. So even if there’s more coming with other schools, they’re going to stagger the release of info, if not keep things entirely under wraps. There’s too much at stake. They probably figure: let Sean and AZ take the heat and attention right now, which buys others a little time to plot the next move.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:10 pm

I thought Louisville was first, and that makes us second.
On top of our real dilemma, do we also have to put up with RiseandFire.? Make me a mod, I'll rise and fire him!!!!

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:23 pm

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

See all you bastards tonight. Bust the Beavers!

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:27 pm

https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstool ... 2198728184

Wasn't sure where to post this but this seems like a pretty general thread.

NIT Will Use Experimental Rules Again This Year

• The three-point line will be extended by approximately 1 foot 8 inches to the same distance used by FIBA for international competition (22 feet 1.75 inches).
• The free throw lane will be widened from 12 feet to 16 feet, consistent with the width used by the NBA.
• The games will be divided into four 10-minute quarters as opposed to two 20-minute halves. Teams will shoot two free throws beginning with the fifth foul of each quarter.
• The shot clock will reset to 20 seconds after an offensive rebound instead of the full 30 seconds.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:56 pm

Let's go win this whole mother fucker!!

pokinmik · Post by **pokinmik** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:02 pm

Alieberman wrote:Let's go win this whole mother fucker!!

It’s the only way! Bear down!

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:03 pm

It's happening. I would *not* want to be in AZ's region.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:07 pm

Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:33 pm

Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it

Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.

prh · Post by **prh** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:35 pm

The way Ayton played at Oregon, I'd welcome hostile crowds. But we know Vegas won't be, and the tourney games, even in the most lopsided locations, are so neutered anyways.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:03 pm

Depending on how the REAL news/sports sources (not ESPN) cover this, Sean could really come across as a wronged victim of fake news. If that happens, there will be a lot of people all across the country who will be rooting for the Wildcats to win it all.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:43 pm

EastCoastCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it
Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.

Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:45 pm

Alieberman wrote:
EastCoastCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it
Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.
Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....

An us vs the world mentality can be a positive.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:50 pm

I totally agree. Just hope this team plays well angry.... I think they will

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:52 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Alieberman wrote:
EastCoastCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it
Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.
Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....
An us vs the world mentality can be a positive.

I read that as anus.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:01 pm

PAC-12 Champs bitches!

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:03 pm

Only way we're not sole pac 12 champs is if we lose to Cal and USC beats UCLA. Any of the other 3 scenarios Saturday and we're sole champs. Guaranteed the 1 seed in the tournament either way. Game with ASU is looming next Thursday now too.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:08 pm

Longhorned wrote:
EVCat wrote:If the NCAA feels the pressure and fixes this Trier thing (or a lawyer makes sure the NCAA is not using a dehydrated test to restrict future earnings)...

...and the spreadsheet shows nothing related to Arizona...

...could we? Be back to normal?
Yeah but with callouses.

Anus v. the world mentality!

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:08 pm

Stanford is a great matchup for this team. Pretty solid at every position.

If I am correct, the wildcats only have 3 losses with their regular starting 5 correct?

This team needs Alkins to be a consistent, regular contributor.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:09 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
EVCat wrote:If the NCAA feels the pressure and fixes this Trier thing (or a lawyer makes sure the NCAA is not using a dehydrated test to restrict future earnings)...

...and the spreadsheet shows nothing related to Arizona...

...could we? Be back to normal?
Yeah but with callouses.
Anus v. the world mentality!

Never good when the anus develops callouses. But that’s where we are at.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:53 am

Looks like we've improved 6-7 spots on adj D. 106 (iirc) ------> 99
Asu BTW is at 88

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:44 am

Whoa that’s cool.

I guess for defense to gel it takes time. Is there enough I wonder or is it it is what it is?

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:19 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Alieberman wrote:
EastCoastCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it
Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.
Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....
An us vs the world mentality can be a positive.

They should play 2pac's "Bomb First" when they run out of the tunnel.

I'm an ESPN killa, NCAA die too
Lookin out for Greg Hansen, bitch when I find you
Weak motherf-ckers don't deserve to breathe
How many Arizona fans down to die for meee? Yay yayeeee
West coast rider, comin right behind ya
Should have never f-cked with meeeeeeeee
I want to cut down the nets with Rawleeee
I wont rest until Trier is freeeeee, BOMB FIRST

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:45 am

Favorite thing about last night

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:53 am

rgdeuce wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Alieberman wrote:
EastCoastCat wrote:
Alieberman wrote:Going to be facing hostile crowds wherever we go... team needs to embrace it
Not really. Got 2 games at home then Pac 12 Tourney in Vegas then the Big Dance all on neutral courts.

Having said that would think this team has an us against the world mentality at this point.
Neutral courts but it will be AZ fans vs. the field

Our fans do travel though....
An us vs the world mentality can be a positive.
They should play 2pac's "Bomb First" when they run out of the tunnel.

I'm an ESPN killa, NCAA die too
Lookin out for Greg Hansen, bitch when I find you
Weak motherf-ckers don't deserve to breathe
How many Arizona fans down to die for meee? Yay yayeeee
West coast rider, comin right behind ya
Should have never f-cked with meeeeeeeee
I want to cut down the nets with Rawleeee
I wont rest until Trier is freeeeee, BOMB FIRST

Ha. I just posted "Hit Em Up" lyrics in the Miller thread, then I click here and see this.

I sort of prefer Hit Em Up because Schlabach can be the major target and various other media personalities can be the alternative targets, but Bomb First is a great song too.

Heck, if by some miracle we make the Final Four, Miller should come out to Picture Me Rollin. Pac's entire discography is appropriate. Or we should really fire at the NCAA and play Picture Me Rollin for Ayton...

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:28 am

Per the Tupac discussion, is there anyone talented with photo/gif shopping who could put Miller and/or ESPN into this gif?

I would be forever in your debt.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:32 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Per the Tupac discussion, is there anyone talented with photo/gif shopping who could put Miller and/or ESPN into this gif?

I would be forever in your debt.

Not sure if that specific one is on there, but a lot of people I know use the app GifJif

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:54 pm

Pac 12 Champs, yet again.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:56 pm

Which west coast writer pre-season picked Arizona to finish 4th in conference?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:57 pm

Longhorned wrote:Which west coast writer pre-season picked Arizona to finish 4th in conference?

Had to be Goodman, right?

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