Arizona @ Washington State Discussion

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:07 am

WSU is no fluke with the 17th best scoring O and 34th best scoring D . . . but it’s the Pac-12, anything can happen and usually does.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:24 am

ByJoveByJingle wrote:WSU is no fluke with the 17th best scoring O and 34th best scoring D . . . but it’s the Pac-12, anything can happen and usually does.

I agree. WSU is just a solid team. If the game was in Tucson, I'd feel more confident. I also think the "looking ahead" angle gets overplayed a lot, nice to have hope, I suppose.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:35 am

We can win this game. Will we? Unlikely, but we can win it.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:41 am

Weather for kickoff shows about 32 degrees and clear with a light breeze.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:34 pm

So WSU is well on its way to it's 3rd Rose Bowl or better in it's history and Arizona is ..................gonna do what Arizona usually does.

Shit area, freezing weather, in the middle of no-where with average facilities WSU builds on it's improbable football history while the beautiful campus, nice weather, lots of girls school in Arizona continues to live in mystifying mediocrity and obscurity.

Mike Price and Mike Leach can make history in Pullman as coaches while Arizona coaches just read about about making history while using every excuse in the book as to why they can't.

Too funny.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:44 pm

PAC12 After Dark..anything can happen.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:50 pm

UALoco wrote:PAC12 After Dark..anything can happen.

And no one west of Denver will watch or care.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:52 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:
UALoco wrote:PAC12 After Dark..anything can happen.
And no one west of Denver will watch or care.

Neither will anyone east

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:08 pm

Oops! I meant east!

Need to go home the smoke is making me ill.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:11 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Merkin wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Merkin wrote:Mike Price also put 5 QBs into the NFL during the PAC-10 era when Arizona had none.

Foles is the only UA QB to take a snap in the NFL since UA was in the WAC.

Unless you are an avid fisherman like Mark Few, or a hunter, skier or anyone who enjoys snows, no idea why anyone would prefer eastern WA over southern AZ.

Tucson is more urban, has prettier girls, and a more active entertainment scene than the Palouse. UA also has better academics than WSU.
Fan support is a factor

Martin Stadium is the smallest stadium in the PAC. WSU reduced stadium size to 32,952 from 35,117 for the 2014 season.
Cool story. They also have huge fan support in the area and sell out or come very close to it ever game. Did you see gameday there? It was probably the wildest and biggest one ever

It was their first GameDay ever in 31 years. Of course they were going to have a great crowd.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:34 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
Merkin wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Merkin wrote:Mike Price also put 5 QBs into the NFL during the PAC-10 era when Arizona had none.

Foles is the only UA QB to take a snap in the NFL since UA was in the WAC.

Unless you are an avid fisherman like Mark Few, or a hunter, skier or anyone who enjoys snows, no idea why anyone would prefer eastern WA over southern AZ.

Tucson is more urban, has prettier girls, and a more active entertainment scene than the Palouse. UA also has better academics than WSU.
Fan support is a factor

Martin Stadium is the smallest stadium in the PAC. WSU reduced stadium size to 32,952 from 35,117 for the 2014 season.
Cool story. They also have huge fan support in the area and sell out or come very close to it ever game. Did you see gameday there? It was probably the wildest and biggest one ever

What's the betting line for WSU not selling out 50% of their home games in the last 10 years? 32,952 capacity.

Least attended game last season at Wildcat Stadium was 36,651.

Your point was again?

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:34 pm

ESPN’s college football playoff predictor gives #8 WSU a 1.2% chance of making the playoffs, while #9 Ohio State has a 20% chance.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:21 pm

Merkin wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Merkin wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
Merkin wrote:Mike Price also put 5 QBs into the NFL during the PAC-10 era when Arizona had none.

Foles is the only UA QB to take a snap in the NFL since UA was in the WAC.

Unless you are an avid fisherman like Mark Few, or a hunter, skier or anyone who enjoys snows, no idea why anyone would prefer eastern WA over southern AZ.

Tucson is more urban, has prettier girls, and a more active entertainment scene than the Palouse. UA also has better academics than WSU.
Fan support is a factor

Martin Stadium is the smallest stadium in the PAC. WSU reduced stadium size to 32,952 from 35,117 for the 2014 season.
Cool story. They also have huge fan support in the area and sell out or come very close to it ever game. Did you see gameday there? It was probably the wildest and biggest one ever
What's the betting line for WSU not selling out 50% of their home games in the last 10 years? 32,952 capacity.

Least attended game last season at Wildcat Stadium was 36,651.

Your point was again?

Having a stadium half full is embarrassing. Per capita WSU blows UA out of the water

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:35 pm

I’ve seen televised games there with half empty stadiums. Probably in one of their down years. Let’s not forget they suck on a recurring basis too.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:36 pm

It's amazing how he doesn't get the most basic concepts.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:38 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:It's amazing how he doesn't get the most basic concepts.

It is amazing how fucking obsessed you are with me

HaCats · Post by **HaCats** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:05 pm

Merkin I always enjoy your takes but if you’re honestly suggesting that Eastern WA’s enthusiasm for Cougar football is the same or less than Southern AZ’s enthusiasm for Wildcat football......then you are woefully misinformed. Cougs football is such a huge deal in that part of the state, almost the way Cats basketball is in Tucson. Yes in their Paul Wulff days when they were going 1-11 every year, the stadium was probably 60% Full...as would any stadium of any team who was that dreadful. If you’re going to talk about stadium size and total attendance numbers, the reason they are small is simply because of the obvious reason that the school is in Pullman. If Wazzu was in Spokane they would sell out a stadium the size of Arizona Stadium consistently and with ease. The equivalent would be if Arizona Stadium was in Sierra Vista......then what do you think our average attendance would be relative to Washington State’s?

This isn’t a Machina take on what our football attendance or civic enthusiasm SHOULD be....just a little clarification on the Wazzu vs Arizona attendance reality.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:08 pm

Probably not a lot of entertainment options in the Palouse, either. Can’t flyfish at 9pm on a Saturday, can you?

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:14 pm

Also:
“While Washington State had a paid attendance of 31,982 in 2017, the Cougars' scanned attendance was 23,996.”

Look at the chart in the article. WSU inflates their attendance by a large number. Interestingly, Arizona seems to have the smallest delta between paid attendance and actual attendance. Bad fans!

https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/c ... 83570.html

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:22 pm

Pullman Population - 33k
Tucson Population - 535k

bad fans

HaCats · Post by **HaCats** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:26 pm

Seriously? When our average attendance this year is quoted at 42,000 or whatever....that is the biggest crock of shit I’ve ever read in my life. In the 1st half of games his year we’ve got about 33k in that stadium and in the 2nd half of games we have about 23k in there. All year i’ve laughed to myself about the disparity in tickets sold vs asses in seats for our games. And again, I haven’t been to a game all year so i’m not arguing that our fans suck blah blah blah. Just stating what is and what isn’t.

UALoco · Post by **UALoco** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:29 pm

Why does every thread turn into the Why can we consistently fill AZ stadium thread?

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:32 pm

Ok I’m out on the topic. But you can choose to not trust the stats and go with your eyeball test based on not being there.

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:33 pm

UALoco wrote:Why does every thread turn into the Why can we consistently fill AZ stadium thread?

Because the same asshole makes the same asinine comment in every thread and no one's banned him

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:27 am

UALoco wrote:Why does every thread turn into the Why can we consistently fill AZ stadium thread?

Well sadly, it seems to drum up more discussion than the actual team.

TSKCoug · Post by **TSKCoug** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:55 am

After last year's debacle against Arizona, I don't think you will catch the Cougars flat footed on Saturday night. Last week was the classic "trap game" opportunity, well....and the following game after AZ is the annual Apple Cup disaster....

Go Cougs!

WSU 38 Arizona 21

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:01 am

TSKCoug wrote:After last year's debacle against Arizona, I don't think you will catch the Cougars flat footed on Saturday night. Last week was the classic "trap game" opportunity, well....and the following game after AZ is the annual Apple Cup disaster....

Go Cougs!

WSU 38 Arizona 21

You got the 38 right but UA is clicking now on offense. 38-31 wsu

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:24 am

game thread is up.

I don't have a good feeling about this game

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:52 am

PieceOfMeat wrote:game thread is up.

I don't have a good feeling about this game

Don't you say that every week?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:01 am

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:42 pm

azgreg wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:game thread is up.

I don't have a good feeling about this game
Don't you say that every week?

Actually I've had good feelings (and posted such) about the last 3 wins.

this game though....i've got this sinking 45-10 type feeling

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azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:10 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:
azgreg wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:game thread is up.

I don't have a good feeling about this game
Don't you say that every week?
Actually I've had good feelings (and posted such) about the last 3 wins.

this game though....i've got this sinking 45-10 type feeling

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viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5390&p=352833&hilit=feeling#p352833" target="_blank
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Just fucking with you.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:46 pm

After we win a big game we never follow it up with a 2nd big win

I think we lose this 1 by 2 tds

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:23 pm

We lose, possibly big, for no other reason than WSU has a better team and we are on the road.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:35 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:We lose, possibly big, for no other reason than WSU has a better team and we are on the road.

Yep

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:43 pm

Not so fast my friends. This one is going to be close. Our ability to run it will really open up our passing game. Tate will have a huge game and his feet will offset their pass rush.

We shock the world on Saturday night 35-31

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:54 pm

That would be amazing if it happens.

My concern is this: the underrated aspect of our recent success has been the {hyperbole voice on} nearly Desert Storm-like run defense. Unfortunately the pass defense over that same period has been awful. Does Washington State even hand the ball off to a running back? This just seems like a bad matchup for us.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:20 pm

We have two of the top 5 slot defenders according to the stats and our safeties have really played well of late. Wazzu will get theirs as we know. We need to do a better job in controlling the clock otherwise they will. Our run game will be the difference Saturday night.

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:15 am

This is going to be a game we give up a ton of yards. Just got to hope we can keep them out of the end zone. Statistically, WSU has a good defense so it will be interesting to see how our offense performs. As others have touched on, the key is our running game. If we can run the ball I think we have a chance but if we can't, I don't like our odds.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:28 am

In 5 home games Washington State has given up an average of 16.2 ppg to opponents, 104 rushing yards per game, and has only allowed 4 rushing tds

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:57 am

it's going to be a close one. Az is rested. Khalil is rested. JJ is a beast

35-32 will be the final score...it's a toss up

any word on Brightwell?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:16 am

Saw that Sumlin or someone said that this is the healthiest UA team that has seen the field in quite some time. Hopefully that is good news about Brightwell.

JJ has been an every down back to everyone's surprise, but not sure how that can last.

whatisee · Post by **whatisee** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:06 am

That's why we need Brightwell back. I thought Smith would be an option, but it looks like they're holding him back right now. He needs to get bigger too.

KillerKlown · Post by **KillerKlown** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:36 am

whatisee wrote:That's why we need Brightwell back. I thought Smith would be an option, but it looks like they're holding him back right now. He needs to get bigger too.

Need scottie back too.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:20 pm

Cougs discussion about us and the weather.

https://washingtonstate.forums.rivals.c ... eek.16301/" target="_blank

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:38 pm

azgreg wrote:Cougs discussion about us and the weather.

https://washingtonstate.forums.rivals.c ... eek.16301/" target="_blank

I'm not sure why I skimmed that but cold weather shouldn't be that big of a deal. It is pretty easy to warm up and stay warm if you're a starter. The backups/coaches are the ones who have to suffer in the cold. Cold weather is just an excuse for poor play if it happens but it won't be the reason.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:42 pm

DrWildcat wrote:
azgreg wrote:Cougs discussion about us and the weather.

https://washingtonstate.forums.rivals.c ... eek.16301/" target="_blank
I'm not sure why I skimmed that but cold weather shouldn't be that big of a deal. It is pretty easy to warm up and stay warm if you're a starter. The backups/coaches are the ones who have to suffer in the cold. Cold weather is just an excuse for poor play if it happens but it won't be the reason.

amen brother. The guys playing can go in, play hard for a little bit and wont be cold, and get back to their huge jackets and heaters and other gear.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:34 pm

new uni combo?

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:07 pm

WSU is beatable but its going to be very hard to come out of the Palouse with a win.

WSU has, in my opinion, the best pass blocking offensive line in the PAC12.

I would like to see AZ roll the dice on defense and play a safety/LB in tight coverage (every down) on the WSU running backs coming out of the backfield as receivers.
Deny WSU the relief valve/dump off pass. This forces them to throw the ball downfield on every down. Their chances of hitting us with a big play increase, but so do the chances of an INT or just a simple incompletion.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:13 pm

Just no injuries. Dont need a game when 5 guys go down and the scum get a cheap win due to injuries again.

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