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Thanks machina for the time and your thoughts.

Speaking for what the Kings area has down for DT sac, it would be a colossal mistake to let the suns leave DT Phoenix


But then Again Phoenix fucked up on not letting the cardinals build their stadium at Arizona marketplace.
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We will see. The good thing is you have to only have 8 people realized what a disaster from the media this has been and how dishonest Kate Gallego and others have been about this and to get them to decide with their brains that this deal is so much more than fair for the City of Phoenix.

If this was a vote of the public it would be voted down because the fucked up media and Gallego and everyone hating Sarver and making this personal. One guy legit said that if Collangelo had this deal I would do it but I wont for Sarver. That is so fucking stupid.
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I’d love to believe this Gallego woman is the terrible liar you describe her as, but first I need to know if she ever blamed the fans for a UA basketball loss.

You’ve got your finger on the pulse of that, don’t you Machina?
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PHXCATS wrote:We will see. The good thing is you have to only have 8 people realized what a disaster from the media this has been and how dishonest Kate Gallego and others have been about this and to get them to decide with their brains that this deal is so much more than fair for the City of Phoenix.

If this was a vote of the public it would be voted down because the fucked up media and Gallego and everyone hating Sarver and making this personal. One guy legit said that if Collangelo had this deal I would do it but I wont for Sarver. That is so fucking stupid.
Yes, but winning and good faith business practices go along way toward getting things done. It really comes down to if you want to work someone or not. Sarver’s burned a ton of bridges with his mismanagement of the suns.
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CalStateTempe wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:We will see. The good thing is you have to only have 8 people realized what a disaster from the media this has been and how dishonest Kate Gallego and others have been about this and to get them to decide with their brains that this deal is so much more than fair for the City of Phoenix.

If this was a vote of the public it would be voted down because the fucked up media and Gallego and everyone hating Sarver and making this personal. One guy legit said that if Collangelo had this deal I would do it but I wont for Sarver. That is so fucking stupid.
Yes, but winning and good faith business practices go along way toward getting things done. It really comes down to if you want to work someone or not. Sarver’s burned a ton of bridges with his mismanagement of the suns.
I pray the City Council has more sense than that though. You are gonna fuck over yourselves and lose out on millions and millions of dollars not to mention the lost jobs and decline in property value because you dont like the guy because he didnt make the right basketball decisions. Fuck that shit.
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Suns release River lol

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/281 ... riza-trade" target="_blank
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Jefe wrote:Suns release River lol

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/281 ... riza-trade" target="_blank
Oubre was the prize, even if he wasn’t wanted initially.

Rivers is what he is which is an inefficient passer, shooter who likes to score and dribble and stop the ball and only defend occasionally. He was an upgrade in playmaking, but I’d rather have Melton and Okobo figure shit out before the offseason so they know where to spend their money.

Melton probably isn’t a starting caliber PG for a good team, but Suns aren’t good, and he complements Booker nicely.
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Jefe wrote:Suns release River lol

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/281 ... riza-trade" target="_blank
Oubre was the prize, even if he wasn’t wanted initially.

Rivers is what he is which is an inefficient passer, shooter who likes to score and dribble and stop the ball and only defend occasionally. He was an upgrade in playmaking, but I’d rather have Melton and Okobo figure shit out before the offseason so they know where to spend their money.

Melton probably isn’t a starting caliber PG for a good team, but Suns aren’t good, and he complements Booker nicely.
I see you posting all over the twitterverse about the Suns. Why are you putting yourself through this?
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Don't look now but the Suns won in Boston tonight to make it four in a row for the first time in almost 4 years.

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Just scored a couple of luxury box tickets for the Suns game tonight.
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azgreg wrote:Just scored a couple of luxury box tickets for the Suns game tonight.

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Can you play PG Greg? They need one bad
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Suns are just as bad in person as they are on tv.
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That was quite the come back though. Holmes does it all
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It was nuts being there today
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No one cares that you were there.
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scumdevils86 wrote:No one cares that you were there.
Obviously you do.

It was so shocking. No one believed what they were hearing. Then I was so tense for a while. Mayor William's handled it great though as did Phoenix PD. Over a dozen police officers were watching him closely when the vote occurred.
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No matter to them.
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Suns Warriors Friday night. UA Wildcat Club has reserved an entire section and setup a pregame party and postgame Q&A with Ayton and Kerr on the court. Plus a shootaround after the game. Im challenging Steve to a 3PT contest
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Kerr and Ayton addressing the UA Wildcat Club after the game. Iggy was expected to join but had a hamstring injury during the game. Ayton kept hinting he wants to play for the Warriors. Kerr said he talks to almost every Wildcat before/after games. Talked to TJ and Lauri recently

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With former wildcat Calista balko Elmore in the background
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Yeah she works in Development for UA now
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azcat49 wrote:With former wildcat Calista balko Elmore in the background
Elmore? Did she happen to marry Ricky?
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Yes she did Choo. They just had their first child a couple years ago
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Stop winning damnit.


They are supposed to be Dyin' for Zion.
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UAEebs86 wrote:Stop winning damnit.


They are supposed to be Dyin' for Zion.
It’s OK. They need the morale boost

And bottom 3 teams have same odds and bottom four almost equal odds.
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Who's this team in the purple unis tonight?
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How does Ayton not get to the line even once?
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Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Chicat wrote:How does Ayton not get to the line even once?
He doesn’t even look to draw fouls, and doesn’t exaggerate contact, so even when he’s fouled, they bounce off or he follows through and it doesn’t appear serious.

Recently a stats account I follow on Twitter had Ayton with 1 half-hearted up-fake all season. He simply has a nose for scoring and find the angles and attempts to do it most efficiently. This is why many say he is finesse.

But if you’ve seen some of his recent post moves & fade/fallaways, you’d know whatever he is doing is special. Fouls will come. The fact his post touches are worth more Points Per Possession than an Anthony Davis post, LeBron and Giannis Isolation, and a Harden PnR suggests upper level elite skill that is literally still developing in year one.

His upside is unseeable.
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Got T'd up twice at NOLA so didn't finish. Neither did Bender, though, who fouled out before OT.

What will separate Ayton from the other bigs in his class in the long run is he not only studies tape, he adapts his game from it. He puts lessons learned from it into practice.
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JMarkJohns wrote:
Chicat wrote:How does Ayton not get to the line even once?
He doesn’t even look to draw fouls, and doesn’t exaggerate contact, so even when he’s fouled, they bounce off or he follows through and it doesn’t appear serious.

Recently a stats account I follow on Twitter had Ayton with 1 half-hearted up-fake all season. He simply has a nose for scoring and find the angles and attempts to do it most efficiently. This is why many say he is finesse.

But if you’ve seen some of his recent post moves & fade/fallaways, you’d know whatever he is doing is special. Fouls will come. The fact his post touches are worth more Points Per Possession than an Anthony Davis post, LeBron and Giannis Isolation, and a Harden PnR suggests upper level elite skill that is literally still developing in year one.

His upside is unseeable.
When I see a big man play 35 minutes and shoot 0 free throws it strikes me that refs aren’t protecting him like they should.
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Chicat wrote:
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Chicat wrote:How does Ayton not get to the line even once?
He doesn’t even look to draw fouls, and doesn’t exaggerate contact, so even when he’s fouled, they bounce off or he follows through and it doesn’t appear serious.

Recently a stats account I follow on Twitter had Ayton with 1 half-hearted up-fake all season. He simply has a nose for scoring and find the angles and attempts to do it most efficiently. This is why many say he is finesse.

But if you’ve seen some of his recent post moves & fade/fallaways, you’d know whatever he is doing is special. Fouls will come. The fact his post touches are worth more Points Per Possession than an Anthony Davis post, LeBron and Giannis Isolation, and a Harden PnR suggests upper level elite skill that is literally still developing in year one.

His upside is unseeable.
When I see a big man play 35 minutes and shoot 0 free throws it strikes me that refs aren’t protecting him like they should.
There is definitely some of this, but it really is more that Ayton just is really good effortlessly scoring around or through contact and/or that whatever contact is never sold as a foul.

But it’s building a foundation of immediacy for his moves. He through an up-fake on Capella (his second of the year) and had CC spinning. Twitter called it Dream-Like. As in Dreakshake by Hakeem.

He literally absorbs whatever contact and deftly lays the ball in.
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Can't wait to see Ja Morant in a Suns uniform next season.
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azgreg wrote:Can't wait to see Ja Morant in a Suns uniform next season.
I'd rather he transfer to Arizona!
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He's just amazing.
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azgreg wrote:Can't wait to see Ja Morant in a Suns uniform next season.
Taking him over Zion?

That would get a motherfucker fired.
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Chicat wrote:
azgreg wrote:Can't wait to see Ja Morant in a Suns uniform next season.
Taking him over Zion?

That would get a motherfucker fired.
Zion is going number 1 to the Nicks.
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azgreg wrote:
Chicat wrote:
azgreg wrote:Can't wait to see Ja Morant in a Suns uniform next season.
Taking him over Zion?

That would get a motherfucker fired.
Zion is going number 1 to the Nicks.
Stevie?


Worst three teams all have the same odds for #1.
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UAEebs86 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Chicat wrote:
azgreg wrote:Can't wait to see Ja Morant in a Suns uniform next season.
Taking him over Zion?

That would get a motherfucker fired.
Zion is going number 1 to the Nicks.
Stevie?


Worst three teams all have the same odds for #1.
I've allowed myself to be aligned with the CTers who believe the NBA won't allow the Suns to have the #1 pick two years on a row.

I have it on good authority that Stevie Nicks is a shadow owner of the Knicks. :mrgreen:
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azgreg wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:
azgreg wrote:
Chicat wrote:
azgreg wrote:Can't wait to see Ja Morant in a Suns uniform next season.
Taking him over Zion?

That would get a motherfucker fired.
Zion is going number 1 to the Nicks.
Stevie?


Worst three teams all have the same odds for #1.
I've allowed myself to be aligned with the CTers who believe the NBA won't allow the Suns to have the #1 pick two years on a row.

I have it on good authority that Stevie Nicks is a shadow owner of the Knicks. :mrgreen:

With the Suns usual luck they'll end up with the 3rd pick and neither one.

I think it's a big dropoff after those two.
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I grew up in Phoenix rooting for his teams. RIP Coach.

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Why would you ever consider the Suns if you were a coach?
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