(M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:58 pm

Men's Game 13: ST. JOHN’S (10-2) vs #16/17 ARIZONA (10-2)
Date: Saturday, Dec. 21
Time: 8:00 p.m. (MST)
Location: San Francisco, Calif. - Chase Center (18,064)
TV: ESPN2 (Dave Pasch & Bill Walson)
Radio: Arizona IMG Sports Network (Jeffries & Hansen), 1290 AM 107.5 FM

Game Notes: https://arizonawildcats.com/documents/2 ... tJohns.pdf" target="_blank
Game Article: https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2019/1 ... ohn-s.aspx" target="_blank

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:47 pm

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:14 pm

"It's Dave, right? OK, why do you hate my grandchilden?"

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:36 pm

I'll be in attendance, nice and close near our bench. Ready for a bounce-back game and a final win before Pac play starts.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:44 pm

Stone still out

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U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:43 am

Jefe wrote:Stone still out

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The ivy league on ivy league rage paying dividends.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:49 am

I thought I read Gettings cleared the protocol and was back for St. John's. Now I can't find it. Did I dream that?

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:02 am

Longhorned wrote:I thought I read Gettings cleared the protocol and was back for St. John's. Now I can't find it. Did I dream that?

I think he cleared protocol but maybe the vision in his eye hasn't cleared up?

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:17 am

Cats -11 and it seems we haven’t covered a game in a long while. Would be a nice way to start the holiday weekend

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:24 am

It will be interesting to see how we match up to the 40 minutes of hell. Should be a good test for us

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:21 pm

84Cat wrote:It will be interesting to see how we match up to the 40 minutes of hell. Should be a good test for us

Unfortunately Mannion hasn't responded well, so a really big game for him.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:01 pm

Merkin wrote:
84Cat wrote:It will be interesting to see how we match up to the 40 minutes of hell. Should be a good test for us
Unfortunately Mannion hasn't responded well, so a really big game for him.

If his shots aren't falling he needs to find other ways to help the team. His assist to turnover ratio is fantastic. He's still adjusting to the increased speed and physicality of the college game. And Miller's expectation for him to play good defense on a consistent basis. The best is definitely yet to come with Mannion. Looking forward to it.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:07 pm

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:09 pm

I hope Nico can find a way to coast enough to heal up but stay on the floor and run the team. Back spasms are a freakout, they're not just a pain you can play through. They're kind of mysterious and often don't respond to treatment. Hope it doesn't get in his head.

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:59 pm

Went and checked out Johnny board (St Johns fans)...the majority of them are saying Cats win...I dunno...I like our teams slowly evolving consistency...I think people like Baker are under-rated in terms of stabilizing influence...hopefully Dylan Smith has a good night defensively and Nico's shots are falling...if those two things happen and we rebound like we did against Gonzaga we win by 20...

Turnovers early are expected...St. Johns runs a pretty mean press that is quite flexible and versatile...we'll see Nico tested tonite...

If we keep turnovers to 10 or below we win easy. If they climb up into the teens we might be in trouble.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:18 pm

Merkin wrote:
84Cat wrote:It will be interesting to see how we match up to the 40 minutes of hell. Should be a good test for us
Unfortunately Mannion hasn't responded well, so a really big game for him.

I think that one of the biggest issues facing Nico is just adjusting to the much more athletic (and longer) competition compared to what he faced in HS. Nico had serious issues in the McDonalds game (Cole Anthony) and the last two teams we faced (Baylor & Gonzaga) had long athletic guards who focused on stopping him. Nico definitely got frustrated with Woolridges defense in the Gonzaga game. Unfortunately, Nico is going to face a whole host of long athletic guards in the PAC12. He needs to slow down and use screens, or just pass the ball if he can't beat his man off the dribble.

Personally, I'm also expecting some one-off defenses (sooner or later) aimed at Nico. I won't be shocked if we see a Triangle & Two from someone down the road. The triangle to stop Zeke, and the double on Nico on the perimeter.....the idea being to make Dylan Smith beat you (a somewhat scary thought for me).

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:03 pm

Some of those Stanford volleyball players are better looking than those on their cheer squad.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:06 pm

Walton’s blinking Christmas sweater!

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:09 pm

Walton to Pasch: “If you would stop saying of course! How do I know what you’re thinking! How do you know what I’m thinking!”

Minutes later: “Have you been to the shores of deliberation?!?!”

oggoazcats · Post by **oggoazcats** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:10 pm

Chase misses point blank at the rim.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:11 pm

He's not wrong Bill. We were hot garbage last year.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:13 pm

Need to settle down and hit our shots

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:16 pm

I know we had finals this week, but it doesn't look like we practiced at all.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:20 pm

Yeah Bill, I'm sure Kerr will have a real tough time getting into the game.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:20 pm

AZCatGirl wrote:I know we had finals this week, but it doesn't look like we practiced at all.

Sean said they had a great week of practice but it's not showing so far tonight

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:22 pm

Jeter is having himself a special game!

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 pm

84Cat wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:I know we had finals this week, but it doesn't look like we practiced at all.
Sean said they had a great week of practice but it's not showing so far tonight

Could've fooled me.

How has Sean not called timeout yet?

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 pm

St. Johns taking it right to us.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 pm

Holy shit we look like shit!!!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 pm

AZCatGirl wrote:Yeah Bill, I'm sure Kerr will have a real tough time getting into the game.

If Kerr could suit up he would be the best player on the current Arizona team.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:24 pm

Right now we are looking like a team that will really struggle against any quality team we play in conference on the road. Very disappointed with our start and our performance in our marquee games outside of Illinois

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:25 pm

Arizona 6 turnovers. St. John’s 0

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:25 pm

ASsU beat these guys by 13. Heron isn’t even playing either.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:25 pm

Once again we do NOT look like a Top 25 team.

This is our last chance to get a decent non-conference win. Lose this and we project to be a 6-8 seed with a 2nd round exit.

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:25 pm

Arizona looks slow and John's are flying. Jeter really hurting us. Green looks overmatched. That press when Mannion was out was killer. Need to bounce back,

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:26 pm

Still waiting for some sign that Nico is ready. Arizona doesn't have a functional point guard.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:27 pm

Longhorned wrote:Still waiting for some sign that Nico is ready. Arizona doesn't have a functional point guard.

He didn't look ready on that last shot he took.....contested with a hand in his face. He should have passed

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:28 pm

Merkin wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:Yeah Bill, I'm sure Kerr will have a real tough time getting into the game.

If Kerr could suit up he would be the best player on the current Arizona team.

It would also be far more entertaining than the shit show we're being forced to watch.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:29 pm

8 TO to none.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:30 pm

Could we look any worse?

oggoazcats · Post by **oggoazcats** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:30 pm

Awful call

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:31 pm

I've no doubt our scoring will improve as the game goes on....but....this is typical sean miller basketball to start this game.

we're on pace for 1 point per minute played, after the first 9 minutes of play.

anyone particularly surprised by this hasn't been watching sean miller basketball over the last decade

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:33 pm

ASSU beat these jokers by 13. Wonder if Sheer will tweet something

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:34 pm

Other teams scheme us. We don't scheme them. DWWD.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:34 pm

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:35 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:Other teams scheme us. We don't scheme them. DWWD.

do what we do
always

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:37 pm

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:37 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:I've no doubt our scoring will improve as the game goes on....but....this is typical sean miller basketball to start this game.

we're on pace for 1 point per minute played, after the first 9 minutes of play.

anyone particularly surprised by this hasn't been watching sean miller basketball over the last decade

If we just got rid of Miller maybe we’d improve from the 5th highest scoring team in the nation to the 4th? Let’s do it!

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:37 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:Other teams scheme us. We don't scheme them. DWWD.

And that is not accurate.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:39 pm

Perhaps the scheme comes during the halftime waterboarding CSM has to undertake almost every game against good opponents.

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