The 2020-2021 Season Thread

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:47 am

Is there anything that at least has what station each game will be on?

NickyBCats · Post by **NickyBCats** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:03 am

Choo, any practice reports? How we looking? Starting 5 projection?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:30 am

NickyBCats wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:03 am Choo, any practice reports? How we looking? Starting 5 projection?

From last week and a few weeks ago. Not sure if anything has changed.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:24 am Things I've been told and mind you it's still early:

"The fans are going to love Kerr."
"Akinjo is that dude, team goes as far as he takes them."
"Tubelis is a pro, may not be a one and done, depends how quickly he adjusts to the American game."
"J. Brown will be very solid all year."
"As of today T. Brown is likely a starter, he has adjusted well."

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:33 am If I had to guess the starting lineup today it would be:

Akinjo
Baker
Terry
Tubelis
Brown

I think Kerr is the better player vs Baker, but his frame is going to hold him back from starting (off the bat at least). Terry is just a guess over Mathurin, that could go either way, with the possibility of both starting next to each other as the season goes on as well. I’m pegging Terry there as he’s a great passer to compliment Akinjo’s ball dominant style. As far as reserves go Kerr, Brown, Mathurin, Lee, and Koloko. I have no idea how Batcho can get minutes on this team.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:38 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:24 amI have no idea how Batcho can get minutes on this team.

Jinx!

I imagine a medical redshirt is in order for Batcho, or a regular one. Maybe he can opt out at no penalty due to Covid.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:18 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:38 am
ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:24 amI have no idea how Batcho can get minutes on this team.
Jinx!

I imagine a medical redshirt is in order for Batcho, or a regular one. Maybe he can opt out at no penalty due to Covid.

It doesn't look like he'll be reevaluated until Jan/Feb, and I doubt he's back this year under any circumstances. I think you have to wait until after the season to apply for a medical redshirt, but I doubt it matters. He's on the 5 to play 4 track regardless of how it's done.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:54 am

With his history of knee problems, I wonder if it wouldn't behoove him to take the medical redshirt, since in the event of another injury, he may get a 6th year. Who knows though with the Covid-19 world though.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:36 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:54 am With his history of knee problems, I wonder if it wouldn't behoove him to take the medical redshirt, since in the event of another injury, he may get a 6th year. Who knows though with the Covid-19 world though.

This is no insider info, but I have a tough time imagining a guy from France building a contingency for 6 years at an American college. Again, I have no real world info, but it's hard for me to imagine Batcho not wanting to move on somewhere after 5 years in Tucson.

Heck, I worry more he would just go home for a pro career to maximize his earning potential before injuries derail all of it.

TheCatInTheHat · Post by **TheCatInTheHat** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:03 pm

IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:47 am Is there anything that at least has what station each game will be on?

Per the Pac-12 website, all of our games in November and December will be on P12N. For those who've complained about our schedule (despite the Covid issues), you get a few data points of validation. UCLA has a neutral court game in Cleveland against Kentucky on CBS. Also, ASU replaced Michigan when they pulled out of a tournament in Connecticut. So, they'll play Baylor on ESPN, followed (probably) by Villanova, also on ESPN. And Colorado will play at Kansas St on ESPNU. But, that's pretty much it non-conference. Other than that, teams are either playing local small-fries on P12N, or they just don't have many games scheduled, period. Once we get into conference play, I'm pretty sure there will be wider exposure. The Oregon at UCLA game at the end of December is on ESPN2.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:44 pm

TheCatInTheHat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:03 pm
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:47 am Is there anything that at least has what station each game will be on?
Per the Pac-12 website, all of our games in November and December will be on P12N. For those who've complained about our schedule (despite the Covid issues), you get a few data points of validation. UCLA has a neutral court game in Cleveland against Kentucky on CBS. Also, ASU replaced Michigan when they pulled out of a tournament in Connecticut. So, they'll play Baylor on ESPN, followed (probably) by Villanova, also on ESPN. And Colorado will play at Kansas St on ESPNU. But, that's pretty much it non-conference. Other than that, teams are either playing local small-fries on P12N, or they just don't have many games scheduled, period. Once we get into conference play, I'm pretty sure there will be wider exposure. The Oregon at UCLA game at the end of December is on ESPN2.

Some talking head pointed out recently that they thought Arizona would be a sub-top 50 team and pointed to the non-con schedule - that if we thought we were tough shit we'd play tough opponents... looking at it myself, I can't say I disagree that our opponents are trash. I'm sure Miller wants to give these guys time to gel given the turnover, but our resume will look like booty until we get into the Pac-12. And then we're relying on the Pac-12 being quality and winning those games. Fun stuff.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:33 am

It's hard to play a decent OOC schedule when you're doing it all at home. I'm not sure it's anything beyond coronavirus. Zaga pulled out on us, the Preseason NIT imploded, and those were the majority of our good opponents.

It does hurt SOS, but I don't think it was super possible to fill those spots at this point with particularly good teams. Our tourney hopes are pretty Pac dependent, but the Pac has some teams that will get respect.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:57 am

West coast teams were always going to be hamstrung by Covid due to travel difficulties. If you're Villanova there are any number of high quality teams within 250 miles of your campus to go and play. If you're Arizona? That's a big fat nope.

Anyone involved with ranking teams needs to keep that in their consideration. In a normal year our non-con schedule would be shit. But what are we supposed to do?

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:01 am

This is not the year to give a shit about your team's weak OOC schedule.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:34 am

I would typically agree that "it's just COIVD + west coast" but comparatively we've got one of the weakest OOC in the Pac-12. Maybe just coincidence.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:40 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:30 am
NickyBCats wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:03 am Choo, any practice reports? How we looking? Starting 5 projection?
From last week and a few weeks ago. Not sure if anything has changed.

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:24 am Things I've been told and mind you it's still early:

"The fans are going to love Kerr."
"Akinjo is that dude, team goes as far as he takes them."
"Tubelis is a pro, may not be a one and done, depends how quickly he adjusts to the American game."
"J. Brown will be very solid all year."
"As of today T. Brown is likely a starter, he has adjusted well."

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:33 am If I had to guess the starting lineup today it would be:

Akinjo
Baker
Terry
Tubelis
Brown

I think Kerr is the better player vs Baker, but his frame is going to hold him back from starting (off the bat at least). Terry is just a guess over Mathurin, that could go either way, with the possibility of both starting next to each other as the season goes on as well. I’m pegging Terry there as he’s a great passer to compliment Akinjo’s ball dominant style. As far as reserves go Kerr, Brown, Mathurin, Lee, and Koloko. I have no idea how Batcho can get minutes on this team.

Akinjo
T. Brown
Baker
Tubelis
J. Brown

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:48 pm

We had Gonzaga and Illinois Plus the preseason NIT. Lost all due to covid. Not our fault.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:48 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:34 am I would typically agree that "it's just COIVD + west coast" but comparatively we've got one of the weakest OOC in the Pac-12. Maybe just coincidence.

I think our desire to play at home is the third factor. A lot of the other Pac teams kept decent games by committing to travel, which we did not, citing Covid.

Colorado going to KSU and UCLA going to SDSU are a few examples. Zaga was our big true away game, and they would have pulled out regardless. It's just a bad year. Hope the vaccine(s) come and work soon.

Edit: the way P12 football is going, I'd be ok if we wind up playing all our games without suspensions due to Covid.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:16 pm

Justin Spears reporting Ira Lee questionable with a concussion.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:25 pm

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:26 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:25 pm

I'm not going to laugh about the health implications, but of course the Utes can't manage to keep it together. Hillbilly-ass program.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:39 am

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:47 am

ASU Final Four LOL

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:20 am

Welp first game against NAU has been postponed. NAU has a positive COVID test.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:27 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:20 am Welp first game against NAU has been postponed. NAU has a positive COVID test.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:46 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:20 am Welp first game against NAU has been postponed. NAU has a positive COVID test.

Fudge. That's why I can't get too worried about the SOS of our nonconference slate. I'll be happy if we get in the required # of games to be tourney eligible. Beyond that, it's icing on the cake.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:14 am

College hoops doesn't seem to be doing things remotely similar to how the NBA did their bubble, and now we're seeing the result. Student-athletes presumably can't be isolated/quarantined and subjected to the same degree of safety protocols as the pros, so it's reasonable to expect plenty more cancelled/postponed games.

Still think they should've skipped the OOC schedule, set up conference-only mini bubbles in the nearest large city (Pac could've been Phoenix or Denver), played a round robin style league tourney, and then taken the top two from each league for a scaled down NCAA tourney.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:15 am

We'll see what happens.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:30 am

I fucking hate everything.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:32 am

Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:30 am I fucking hate everything.

It is what it is.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:58 am

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:32 am
Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:30 am I fucking hate everything.
It is what it is.

The list of things without which there will be murders is growing. The world is hereby on notice. I'm becoming a dangerous man.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:05 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:32 am
Alieberman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:30 am I fucking hate everything.
It is what it is.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:31 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:14 am College hoops doesn't seem to be doing things remotely similar to how the NBA did their bubble, and now we're seeing the result. Student-athletes presumably can't be isolated/quarantined and subjected to the same degree of safety protocols as the pros, so it's reasonable to expect plenty more cancelled/postponed games.

Still think they should've skipped the OOC schedule, set up conference-only mini bubbles in the nearest large city (Pac could've been Phoenix or Denver), played a round robin style league tourney, and then taken the top two from each league for a scaled down NCAA tourney.

This would have been a good idea, but it would have required acknowledging that things need to be done differently amid a massive pandemic and that my friend is a bridge too far.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:00 pm

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:31 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:14 am College hoops doesn't seem to be doing things remotely similar to how the NBA did their bubble, and now we're seeing the result. Student-athletes presumably can't be isolated/quarantined and subjected to the same degree of safety protocols as the pros, so it's reasonable to expect plenty more cancelled/postponed games.

Still think they should've skipped the OOC schedule, set up conference-only mini bubbles in the nearest large city (Pac could've been Phoenix or Denver), played a round robin style league tourney, and then taken the top two from each league for a scaled down NCAA tourney.
This would have been a good idea, but it would have required acknowledging that things need to be done differently amid a massive pandemic and that my friend is a bridge too far.

I know. I live in SoCal where cases are skyrocketing amid seeming indifference by most people. We still put our masks on for walking the dogs, whether people are near us or not. Just feels like some small gesture we can do to show kindness towards our neighbors.

Anyway, it's a shame that this college hoops season has been planned so poorly, and it's a shame that so many coaches and players are testing positive. Didn't have to be this way.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:13 pm

2020 can eat a dick.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:23 pm

2020 ate all of our dicks.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:52 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:54 pm

Probably safer from COVID over there than in the States. Just mask up on the plane KK.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:56 pm

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:02 pm

2020 doesn’t stop being shitty for any one.

NickyBCats · Post by **NickyBCats** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:12 pm

Is he coming back? Wtf

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:14 pm

I have 0 insider information, but going all the way back to Estonia is one helluva trip so he must be planning on staying there awhile.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:55 pm

I'm sure he'll be back, and cleared, shortly.

IndianaZonaFan · Post by **IndianaZonaFan** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:07 pm

He’s playing 2 qualifying games for the Estonia national team on the 28th and 30th. He will return to Arizona afterwards.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:20 pm

Just when I thought the NCAA couldn't do anything else, they take forever to clear Kerr...

Not that we'll have much of a season at this rate, but geez just clear everyone for this year anyway.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:44 pm

How has it taken this long to clear him?

It takes some intestinal fortitude to ask/tell CSM that you are taking a long weekend and going back to Estonia to play some hoops.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:09 pm

He’s expected to return after the Estonia games.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:08 pm

Postmaster wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:44 pm How has it taken this long to clear him?

It takes some intestinal fortitude to ask/tell CSM that you are taking a long weekend and going back to Estonia to play some hoops.

Feels like we've been through this before? Maybe with Lauri as he "kinda" had a pro contract... someone refine my memory.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:53 pm

No “pro” issues here since he’s going to play with the national team.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:31 am

YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:08 pm
Postmaster wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:44 pm How has it taken this long to clear him?

It takes some intestinal fortitude to ask/tell CSM that you are taking a long weekend and going back to Estonia to play some hoops.
Feels like we've been through this before? Maybe with Lauri as he "kinda" had a pro contract... someone refine my memory.

Nah Lauri was good early on. Kerr will get cleared. The NCAA is just dragging their feet.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:36 am

We should have self-sanctioned!!!

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:14 am

ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:31 am
YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:08 pm
Postmaster wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:44 pm How has it taken this long to clear him?

It takes some intestinal fortitude to ask/tell CSM that you are taking a long weekend and going back to Estonia to play some hoops.
Feels like we've been through this before? Maybe with Lauri as he "kinda" had a pro contract... someone refine my memory.
Nah Lauri was good early on. Kerr will get cleared. The NCAA is just dragging their feet.

This is not helping my conspiracy theory side.

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