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CopaCat · Post by **CopaCat** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:37 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:18 pm
CopaCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:57 pm
azcat49 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:17 pm 2 star Trevan Wade coming home? He could coach corners and let Cecil Coach safeties. Need a DC/ LB coach and special teams unless that is by committee?
Paopao will certainly be involved in the Special Teams. Doubt they hire a designated ST coach.

So far I am fairly optimistic with the hires on Offense. Not sure on Scottie Graham? Would assume he must be a very personable guy with possible recruiting ties despite not being a coach. So far I would give the offensive hires a B/B+. Defense, guess we will see?
We have three on field coach spots available. With Cecil taking all DB's that leaves DC, LB's and Special Teams so I am pretty sure one of those three spots will go to special teams.

You could be right as I forgot Cecil is coaching all DB's. Paopao does have Special Teams experience though.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:53 pm

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:20 pm

Another former UCLA guy. Walker has some cult status at ucla for beating Carroll in the 13-9 game. Was great vs pro style offenses, torched by spread offenses. Great pickup as a corners guy though.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:06 am

I'm down with Brown as the DC. He obviously has a connection with Fisch and getting a former UM DC is not too shabby considering where AZ is starting from.

He is a NE guy so how he recruits - or delegates his recruiting will be interesting to watch. That's a concern I would think.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:14 am

Jedd’s Twitter game is strong. Classic tweet he just tossed up!

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:16 am

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:46 am

The kids are going to love that very current pop culture reference.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:54 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:46 am The kids are going to love that very current pop culture reference.

What, they don't know Crockett and Tubbs?

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:15 am

Was just going to say. That's super cringeworthy. "Kids love that!". Uh no, I wasn't thrilled about references to Rowan and Martin's Laugh In when I was in highschool so...

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:19 am

scumdevils86 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:15 am Was just going to say. That's super cringeworthy. "Kids love that!". Uh no, I wasn't thrilled about references to Rowan and Martin's Laugh In when I was in highschool so...

I'll drink to that!

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:44 am

Look that up in your Funk and Wagnall's.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:50 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:46 am The kids are going to love that very current pop culture reference.

27 years old and I barely know Miami Vice other than the name and that it was a show. Didn't even know the character names.

Pretty sure a 17 year old will see that and be like "oh like the Heat's new jerseys!"

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:52 am

I do enjoy that he is much more twitter active like Lane. I'm down with some trolling. Better win though or he'll learn the bad side of twitter real quick lol

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:50 am

catgrad97 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:44 am Look that up in your Funk and Wagnall's.

My dad had a 1969 edition of Funk and Wagnall's that he got from some kind of coupon redemption thing at Bashas if I remember correctly in 1970 right after he moved to Arizona from Kansas.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:26 pm

I'd rather have Chris Ash over Don Brown for no other reason than age

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:18 pm

Don Brown it is

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:54 pm

Here we go! Let the rebuild begin

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:40 pm

How can you not like Laugh In?

Also, wasn’t there a Miami vice remake a few years ago?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:06 pm

Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:40 pm How can you not like Laugh In?

Also, wasn’t there a Miami vice remake a few years ago?

The Jamie Fox/Colin Ferrell movie? That came out when our current recruits were 3 years old.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:34 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:06 pm
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:40 pm How can you not like Laugh In?

Also, wasn’t there a Miami vice remake a few years ago?
The Jamie Fox/Colin Ferrell movie? That came out when our current recruits were 3 years old.

The majority of our recruits will think this is a reference to GTA, which should still resonate with them.

cerec_cat · Post by **cerec_cat** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:39 am

Wasn't thrilled about the hire, but definitely feel better with this group over Sumlins

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:49 am

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:34 am
Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:06 pm
Postmaster wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:40 pm How can you not like Laugh In?

Also, wasn’t there a Miami vice remake a few years ago?
The Jamie Fox/Colin Ferrell movie? That came out when our current recruits were 3 years old.
The majority of our recruits will think this is a reference to GTA, which should still resonate with them.

Vice City came out before our recruits were born

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:50 am

cerec_cat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:39 am Wasn't thrilled about the hire, but definitely feel better with this group over Sumlins

The only hire I reeeeally dislike is Scottie Graham. Just why?

I have problems with some other's, but it's not a dislike.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:52 am

btfd16 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:49 am
Vice City came out before our recruits were born

Vice City is prevalent in the GTA online which is played now by many teenagers.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:11 am

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:52 am
btfd16 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:49 am
Vice City came out before our recruits were born
Vice City is prevalent in the GTA online which is played now by many teenagers.

I don't play video games, but I guess I'm just skeptical that 17 year old elite athletes are playing an 18.5 year old video game instead of Call of Duty, Madden, 2K and Fortnite with their friends.

BeardownZonaZona · Post by **BeardownZonaZona** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:20 pm

Anybody know what Coach Fisch is hyping up here? Or at least any idea. All his other tweets at least have something to do with the hire. I have no clue here

https://twitter.com/coachjeddfisch/stat ... 62018?s=21

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:29 pm

Probably going to announce Brown as official soon.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:19 pm

btfd16 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:11 am
gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:52 am
btfd16 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:49 am
Vice City came out before our recruits were born
Vice City is prevalent in the GTA online which is played now by many teenagers.
I don't play video games, but I guess I'm just skeptical that 17 year old elite athletes are playing an 18.5 year old video game instead of Call of Duty, Madden, 2K and Fortnite with their friends.

I'm not a gamer, but even with GTA, I think GTA 5 is the big one, not Vice City.

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:24 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:19 pm
I'm not a gamer, but even with GTA, I think GTA 5 is the big one, not Vice City.

Vice City is in GTA 5, at least that's what my teenage kids have told me.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm

Vice City is not in GTA 5. Vice City hasn't been in a game since like 2002

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:50 pm

ASUHATER! wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm Vice City is not in GTA 5. Vice City hasn't been in a game since like 2002

Agree to disagree, seeing as how I have seen it with my own eyes. I've already gone on long enough about a game I have never played myself.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:52 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:50 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm Vice City is not in GTA 5. Vice City hasn't been in a game since like 2002
Agree to disagree, seeing as how I have seen it with my own eyes. I've already gone on long enough about a game I have never played myself.

GTA V is Los Santos

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:55 pm

Fucking millenials.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:48 pm

gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:50 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm Vice City is not in GTA 5. Vice City hasn't been in a game since like 2002
Agree to disagree, seeing as how I have seen it with my own eyes. I've already gone on long enough about a game I have never played myself.

I looked on Google and I think you're both sort of correct. Rockstar offered a modified Vice City within GTA 5. GTA 5 is Los Santos, and Vice City's version isn't the original Vice City game, but just uses the Vice City layout.

This is all Google research.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:46 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:48 pm
gronk4heisman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:50 pm
ASUHATER! wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm Vice City is not in GTA 5. Vice City hasn't been in a game since like 2002
Agree to disagree, seeing as how I have seen it with my own eyes. I've already gone on long enough about a game I have never played myself.
I looked on Google and I think you're both sort of correct. Rockstar offered a modified Vice City within GTA 5. GTA 5 is Los Santos, and Vice City's version isn't the original Vice City game, but just uses the Vice City layout.

This is all Google research.

Wow that was thrilling. Thank goodness we got to the bottom of this. I love this forum.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:08 pm

It's official. One spot to go.

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:15 pm

I'm really curious to see what Brown can do for our defense. He resume is impressive even though they conveniently left off 2020.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:31 pm

DrWildcat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:15 pm I'm really curious to see what Brown can do for our defense. He resume is impressive even though they conveniently left off 2020.

Weird to include the 2009 83rd but not the 2020 50's

DrWildcat · Post by **DrWildcat** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:43 pm

btfd16 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:31 pm
DrWildcat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:15 pm I'm really curious to see what Brown can do for our defense. He resume is impressive even though they conveniently left off 2020.
Weird to include the 2009 83rd but not the 2020 50's

They show every year where the defense improved year-over-year or was very good....so no 2020.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:57 pm

DrWildcat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:43 pm
btfd16 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:31 pm
DrWildcat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:15 pm I'm really curious to see what Brown can do for our defense. He resume is impressive even though they conveniently left off 2020.
Weird to include the 2009 83rd but not the 2020 50's
They show every year where the defense improved year-over-year or was very good....so no 2020.

And that feels like the entire story in some ways.

We have Brown because his D declined so badly in 2020 he got fired. The question of whether 2020 was an aberration for him or the beginning of the end is pretty much the entire operative question for how we should feel about him.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:03 pm

I'm in the "beggars can't be choosy" camp quite frankly but god am I dying for a defense that actually tries to put pressure on the QB and get's some TFL's.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:07 pm

Having a guy who was able to engineer the #1 defense in the country at BC I think bodes well for us. I can't imagine that their recruiting is that far above ours traditionally (ie - not Sumlin era).

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:17 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:07 pm Having a guy who was able to engineer the #1 defense in the country at BC I think bodes well for us. I can't imagine that their recruiting is that far above ours traditionally (ie - not Sumlin era).

True Chi but the other factor is his ties were/have been in the Northeast (BC get's kids not wanting to go to Penn State and want to stay close to home) so hope there's a plan for recruiting hard in the West.

Let's see.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:37 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:07 pm Having a guy who was able to engineer the #1 defense in the country at BC I think bodes well for us. I can't imagine that their recruiting is that far above ours traditionally (ie - not Sumlin era).

Brown was there 2013-2015.

Recruiting rank:
2013 - 86
2014 - 51
2015 - 60

Defense rank:
2013 - 92 (total) / 77 (scoring)
2014 - 11 (total) / 21 (scoring)
2015 - 1 (total) / 4 (scoring)

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:26 pm

New analyst.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:28 pm

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:55 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:37 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:07 pm Having a guy who was able to engineer the #1 defense in the country at BC I think bodes well for us. I can't imagine that their recruiting is that far above ours traditionally (ie - not Sumlin era).
Brown was there 2013-2015.

Recruiting rank:
2013 - 86
2014 - 51
2015 - 60

Defense rank:
2013 - 92 (total) / 77 (scoring)
2014 - 11 (total) / 21 (scoring)
2015 - 1 (total) / 4 (scoring)

Who was HC at Boston College during that time? Steve Addazzio?

What we should be saying is that How would Brown fare with a defensive unit that has been remotely bad since 2012?

Sure his time at BC in 3 years is impressive but BC wasn't a world beater in those three season.

2013-7-6 with 92nd rank Total D/ 77th scoring D
2014- 7-6 with 11th rank Total D/21th scoring D
2015-3-9 with 1st rank Total D/ 4th scoring D

The is a PAC 12 is different style than Big ten.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:14 pm

cordera89 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:55 pm
azgreg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:37 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:07 pm Having a guy who was able to engineer the #1 defense in the country at BC I think bodes well for us. I can't imagine that their recruiting is that far above ours traditionally (ie - not Sumlin era).
Brown was there 2013-2015.

Recruiting rank:
2013 - 86
2014 - 51
2015 - 60

Defense rank:
2013 - 92 (total) / 77 (scoring)
2014 - 11 (total) / 21 (scoring)
2015 - 1 (total) / 4 (scoring)

Who was HC at Boston College during that time? Steve Addazzio?

What we should be saying is that How would Brown fare with a defensive unit that has been remotely bad since 2012?

Sure his time at BC in 3 years is impressive but BC wasn't a world beater in those three season.

2013-7-6 with 92nd rank Total D/ 77th scoring D
2014- 7-6 with 11th rank Total D/21th scoring D
2015-3-9 with 1st rank Total D/ 4th scoring D

The is a PAC 12 is different style than Big ten.

Yes, Steve Addazzio. Here's the point. BC went 21-29 in the three years before Addazzio and Brown got there. In the three years Brown was there he completely turned around the defense using talent on the same level as Arizona's. He did it by coaching them up not by recruiting better talent.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:16 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:07 pm Having a guy who was able to engineer the #1 defense in the country at BC I think bodes well for us. I can't imagine that their recruiting is that far above ours traditionally (ie - not Sumlin era).

I'm not sure the #1 D thing is all it's cracked up to be. BC was 3-9 that year and they ran a super slow paced game with an anemic offense.

They were bottom 10 in possessions on offense and 13th from the bottom on defensive possessions. That plus the other teams being conservative with almost constant leads is gonna influence things.

I think Brown is a solid X and O coach. I hope he hasn't lost his edge based on the last UM year. His stats at BC and UM are both helped a lot by both teams being very slow paced, ball control teams. I worry how he transitions to a team that will run a quicker, more pass heavy offense.

Again, I don't hate Brown and things could (Yates or Rhoads) be worse, but I'm not ready to be overly optimistic, either.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:22 am

azgreg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:14 pm
cordera89 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:55 pm
azgreg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:37 pm
Chicat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:07 pm Having a guy who was able to engineer the #1 defense in the country at BC I think bodes well for us. I can't imagine that their recruiting is that far above ours traditionally (ie - not Sumlin era).
Brown was there 2013-2015.

Recruiting rank:
2013 - 86
2014 - 51
2015 - 60

Defense rank:
2013 - 92 (total) / 77 (scoring)
2014 - 11 (total) / 21 (scoring)
2015 - 1 (total) / 4 (scoring)

Who was HC at Boston College during that time? Steve Addazzio?

What we should be saying is that How would Brown fare with a defensive unit that has been remotely bad since 2012?

Sure his time at BC in 3 years is impressive but BC wasn't a world beater in those three season.

2013-7-6 with 92nd rank Total D/ 77th scoring D
2014- 7-6 with 11th rank Total D/21th scoring D
2015-3-9 with 1st rank Total D/ 4th scoring D

The is a PAC 12 is different style than Big ten.
Yes, Steve Addazzio. Here's the point. BC went 21-29 in the three years before Addazzio and Brown got there. In the three years Brown was there he completely turned around the defense using talent on the same level as Arizona's. He did it by coaching them up not by recruiting better talent.

Yeah, but they were only 17-21 the years Addazio and Brown were there, and the last year was 3-9. Obviously not all that is on Brown, but...I'm just not ready to be too optimistic.

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