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and, ECC - 12 of the top 13 play tomorrow

it will all pretty much be settled tomorrow while teams slug it out and AZ gets the Buffs.

i know im a broken record, but things have and continue to break just perfectly for Lloyd this first season.

im done saying its not possible with him until he proves it to me that him failing is possible.

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Chicat wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:47 am 2022 Murray State = 2018 Buffalo
Exactly.
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Alieberman wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:39 pm
RondaeShimmy wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:30 pm
Gonzaga and Arizona have separated at the top of the seed list, nearly clinching N°1 seeds prior to their respective conference tournaments
There is a certain poster here who has been screaming this exact same thing for a while now....
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97cats wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:04 pm and, ECC - 12 of the top 13 play tomorrow

it will all pretty much be settled tomorrow while teams slug it out and AZ gets the Buffs.

i know im a broken record, but things have and continue to break just perfectly for Lloyd this first season.

im done saying its not possible with him until he proves it to me that him failing is possible.

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Bracket matrix now has Arizona as the #1 one seed.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:30 pm Bracket matrix now has Arizona as the #1 one seed.
Technically tied with Gonzaga for 1st place
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:30 pm Bracket matrix now has Arizona as the #1 one seed.
As of 2 days ago
Olsondogg wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:36 pm With the latest updates from most of the brackets, the matrix puts Arizona as the top overall seed as of today.

Which is completely awesome and amazing to be considering how we all felt in mid April.
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:45 pm
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:30 pm Bracket matrix now has Arizona as the #1 one seed.
Technically tied with Gonzaga for 1st place
Yeah. Ain't nobody passing Gonzaga. That's your top overall seed, folks.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:54 pm
Yeah. Ain't nobody passing Gonzaga. That's your top overall seed, folks.
actually on the off chance it happens, and i dont think it will, but another tendency ive pointed out is Gonzaga's propensity to lose or drop a late season game to a worthy opponent after multi-month long and easy win streak piles up against poor conf competition. late season losses to BYU a few times and another team that i am forgetting but it has happened.

if they lose to a capable St Mary's team tonight and AZ holds serve in Boulder, the Cats would have the inside track on the number one overall seed still needing, imo, to win out in the reg season thus making the conf tournament inconsequential, which it pretty much already is as of today anyway.

long shot i know but dont totally discount it. but, if Gonzaga wins tonight (as expected) then the rest of the way doesnt matter, they are number one seed overall regardless, imo.

small sliver of hope i know but fun nonetheless.
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97cats wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:35 am
Beachcat97 wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:54 pm
Yeah. Ain't nobody passing Gonzaga. That's your top overall seed, folks.
actually on the off chance it happens, and i dont think it will, but another tendency ive pointed out is Gonzaga's propensity to lose or drop a late season game to a worthy opponent after multi-month long and easy win streak piles up against poor conf competition. late season losses to BYU a few times and another team that i am forgetting but it has happened.

if they lose to a capable St Mary's team tonight and AZ holds serve in Boulder, the Cats would have the inside track on the number one overall seed still needing, imo, to win out in the reg season thus making the conf tournament inconsequential, which it pretty much already is as of today anyway.

long shot i know but dont totally discount it. but, if Gonzaga wins tonight (as expected) then the rest of the way doesnt matter, they are number one seed overall regardless, imo.

small sliver of hope i know but fun nonetheless.
This is an interesting (and not entirely far-fetched) scenario, 97. Let's see what happens with Gonzaga today.

Another thought: if Gonzaga does lose, and win out, is there any chance Tommy pumps the brakes a little in the Pac tourney, maybe resting our guys who've had injuries (Tubelis, Kriisa)? Or is it pedal to the metal from here on out?

I think you're right that a Gonzaga loss + us winning out = #1 overall seed regardless of what happens in the Pac tourney.
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i think the number one overall seed will be decided today - if Gonzaga wins conf tournament means nothing - Zags would lock #1 overall seed.

if Gonzaga falls to St Mary's AZ would have to win out (reg season only) and they would be #1 overall seed

small chance but alas here we are so close to selection sunday not much will change anymore.
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I feel like this could be our toughest game on the schedule including pac 12 tourney, we lose in boulder a lot it feels like. Even when Colorado isn't that great,they've had flashes this year.

Hope we get this one.
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Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:30 am Another thought: if Gonzaga does lose, and win out, is there any chance Tommy pumps the brakes a little in the Pac tourney, maybe resting our guys who've had injuries (Tubelis, Kriisa)? Or is it pedal to the metal from here on out?
Hell yeah we should lose there, pretty much every recent Natty champ has lost in the conference tournament.

Arizona is currently on a 9 game win streak.... The last several national champions win streaks to win the 'chip...

2021 Baylor -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2019 Virginia -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2018 Villanova -- 11
2017 North Carolina -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2016 Villanova -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2015 Duke -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2014 UConn -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2013 Louisville -- 16
2012 Kentucky -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2011 UConn -- 11 (all tournament wins)
2010 Duke -- 10
2009 North Carolina -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2008 Kansas -- 13
2007 Florida -- 10
2006 Florida -- 11
2005 North Carolina -- 6 (conference tournament loss)

Really in modern college basketball ('12 is the start of this era imo), championship teams get their loss out of the way in the conference tournament

It isn't worth the extreme energy exhausted there to get something not as important when they're already likely have the 1 seed on lock
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lost four in a row at Colorado

last victory (2/26/2015) an AZ 82-54 blowout
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Fatty Battey not gonna win today.
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RondaeShimmy wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:52 am
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:30 am Another thought: if Gonzaga does lose, and win out, is there any chance Tommy pumps the brakes a little in the Pac tourney, maybe resting our guys who've had injuries (Tubelis, Kriisa)? Or is it pedal to the metal from here on out?
Hell yeah we should lose there, pretty much every recent Natty champ has lost in the conference tournament.

Arizona is currently on a 9 game win streak.... The last several national champions win streaks to win the 'chip...

2021 Baylor -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2019 Virginia -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2018 Villanova -- 11
2017 North Carolina -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2016 Villanova -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2015 Duke -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2014 UConn -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2013 Louisville -- 16
2012 Kentucky -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2011 UConn -- 11 (all tournament wins)
2010 Duke -- 10
2009 North Carolina -- 6 (conference tournament loss)
2008 Kansas -- 13
2007 Florida -- 10
2006 Florida -- 11
2005 North Carolina -- 6 (conference tournament loss)

Really in modern college basketball ('12 is the start of this era imo), championship teams get their loss out of the way in the conference tournament

It isn't worth the extreme energy exhausted there to get something not as important when they're already likely have the 1 seed on lock
As much as I love the idea of winning out, if we had to take one more loss, I'd rather it come today than @USC.
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Hard to believe it's been 7 years.
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dovecanyoncat wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:31 pm Hard to believe it's been 7 years.
it actually makes me want to vomit
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Don’t I recall their fan base suggest they were the new top program in the conference with whiny Taddy?

I want to boat race these guys tonight.
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Chicat wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:00 pm Fatty Battey not gonna win today.
Today is SR. day and they will be sky high after losing to ASU.
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So Purdue's loss today jeopardizes their chances for a 1 seed.

Other key games today (as 97 has dutifully been tracking): Baylor/Kansas and Auburn/Tennessee

A Kansas win has them on the inside track for a #1, and an Auburn win virtually guarantees they'll be a 1.

If either loses, the door remains ajar for Kentucky and Duke, and yes, I see that Kentucky is down to Arkansas at the moment.
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Talk of who our #2 might be and I think they all would be tough. I worry more about 8-9 match up being a team like Murray St or maybe a Memphis or North Carolina.

Past that is the sweet 16 a 4-5 like Arkansas or Alabama or even an Ohio St would concern me
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It surprises me that AZ having possibly four more wins than Gonzaga and the same amount of losses in a power 5 conference at the end of the season doesn't hold enough weight to get the overall one seed.
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jsbowl16 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:59 pm It surprises me that AZ having possibly four more wins than Gonzaga and the same amount of losses in a power 5 conference at the end of the season doesn't hold enough weight to get the overall one seed.
its a very interesting question and begs the notion if the committee would weight AZ if they win the next seven games, i still think Gonzaga would have to lose but its worth noting.

32-2 - reg season (by multiple games) and conf tournament champs in a pwr 5 cant be ignored.
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Teams across the country ensuring AZ get's it's #1 seed.

Just as some were predicting.

Math.....
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Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:20 pm Teams across the country ensuring AZ get's it's #1 seed.

Just as some were predicting.

Math.....
Just beat Colorado, and we're all good, even if it's a close game.

I'm really hoping to avoid the chorus of naysayers sure to follow a loss today.
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teams left with legitimate chance at #1 Seed heading into late afternoon action (in order) - 2.26.22

lock

Gonzaga
Arizona

drivers seat

Kansas

in contention

Kentucky
Baylor
Duke
Auburn
Texas Tech

------cutline - cutline - cutline - cutline-------

Purdue
Tennessee
Wisconsin
Villanova
Illinois
Arkansas
Houston
Texas
UCLA
Ohio State
UCONN
Providence
Southern California
Alabama
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I agree 100% with this list.

The funny thing is: The cut line keeps dropping, as AZ keeps rising. Major separation now....
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Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:35 pm I agree 100% with this list.

The funny thing is: The cut line keeps dropping, as AZ keeps rising. Major separation now....
at this rate because of the bloodshed today, i believe Gonzaga could lose their last two in a row and still be a #1 seed.
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97cats wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:39 pm
Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:35 pm I agree 100% with this list.

The funny thing is: The cut line keeps dropping, as AZ keeps rising. Major separation now....
at this rate because of the bloodshed today, i believe Gonzaga could lose their last two in a row and still be a #1 seed.
The more interesting question, of course: how many more could we lose and do the same?
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Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:42 pm
97cats wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:39 pm
Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:35 pm I agree 100% with this list.

The funny thing is: The cut line keeps dropping, as AZ keeps rising. Major separation now....
at this rate because of the bloodshed today, i believe Gonzaga could lose their last two in a row and still be a #1 seed.
The more interesting question, of course: how many more could we lose and do the same?
If we win tonight the same scenario.
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What if Gozaga loses pantless and airborne?
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AZ now could lose two of four down the stretch and still have a number one seed - if they lost more than 2 the rest of the way they would move down

27-4 is the magic record

look familiar, Beach???
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EastCoastCat wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:49 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:42 pm
97cats wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:39 pm
Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:35 pm I agree 100% with this list.

The funny thing is: The cut line keeps dropping, as AZ keeps rising. Major separation now....
at this rate because of the bloodshed today, i believe Gonzaga could lose their last two in a row and still be a #1 seed.
The more interesting question, of course: how many more could we lose and do the same?
If we win tonight the same scenario.
So you're saying there's a #1 seed on the line tonight. Not in the sense that if we lose, we're suddenly a 2 seed. But that if we win, it's going to be impossible not to earn a 1.
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97cats wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:56 pm AZ now could lose two of four down the stretch and still have a number one seed - if they lost more than 2 the rest of the way they would move down

27-4 is the magic record

look familiar, Beach???
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It’s not hard to figure out

Committee said that Auburn and AZ were basically tied last Saturday in the reveal.

Since then Auburn has lost 2 games AND are still in position to grab a #1 seed

Math
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Chicat wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:58 pm
97cats wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:56 pm AZ now could lose two of four down the stretch and still have a number one seed - if they lost more than 2 the rest of the way they would move down

27-4 is the magic record

look familiar, Beach???
“Please show me the Quantum Physics equation in Einstein’s calculations that proves without a doubt that Arizona is a 1-seed.”

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submitted to evidence - Jan 18 this was introduced into the conversation
97cats wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:11 am Arizona would have to be north of four losses to be supplanted from the two line and be on the outside in on the top 8 overall - i dont see that happening (as i mentioned barring a major collapse which i would call such with a potential 15games remaining).

so yes, i agree, if Arizona shits the bed down the stretch they will not be on the two line - however that would be in direct conflict to how they have performed up to this point in the season.

but that's why they play the games!!

and, even if Arizona slides out of the top 8, they most likely will still be in Duke or Gonzaga's region.
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97cats wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:56 pm
look familiar, Beach???
This is what I predicted after we beat Michigan:

vs SAC
vs WASH
@ ORST
vs WYO
@ 14 ILL
vs UNCO
vs CBU

@ 15 TENN
@ 2 UCLA
@ 24 USC
@ ASU
vs COLO
vs UTAH
@ STAN
@ CAL
vs ASU

vs 2 UCLA
vs 24 USC
@ WSU
@ WASH
vs ORST
vs ORE
@ UTAH

@ COLO
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vs CAL

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Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:56 pm
EastCoastCat wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:49 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:42 pm
97cats wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:39 pm
Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:35 pm I agree 100% with this list.

The funny thing is: The cut line keeps dropping, as AZ keeps rising. Major separation now....
at this rate because of the bloodshed today, i believe Gonzaga could lose their last two in a row and still be a #1 seed.
The more interesting question, of course: how many more could we lose and do the same?
If we win tonight the same scenario.
So you're saying there's a #1 seed on the line tonight. Not in the sense that if we lose, we're suddenly a 2 seed. But that if we win, it's going to be impossible not to earn a 1.
Correct.
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At least no one is going to pass us!

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2 seed looming now with any more losses.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
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ASUHATER! wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:14 pm 2 seed looming now with any more losses.
Agree. Fortunately Kansas lost tonight

Unfortunately, losing to Baylor is about .0001% as bad as losing to Colorado.
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Good thing everyone else lost.
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Monday's number 1 seed rankings:

1) Gonzaga (unless they lose too)
2) Duke
3) Kansas
4) Kentucky
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Chicat wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:25 pm Good thing everyone else lost.
Yes, but unfortunately losing to Colorado is about 100x worse than losing to Baylor/Tennessee/Arkansas
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Craziest day ever?
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Alieberman wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:53 pm Craziest day ever?
Unless there's been another day where the top 6 teams all lost, yes.
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