(M) Game #36 Clemson vs. Arizona (NCAA Tournament Sweet 16) (2023-2024)

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:56 pm

Lewis3

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:56 pm

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:57 pm

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:57 pm

BOOM BALLO

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:58 pm

holy shiiiiiiiiiiii

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:58 pm

Holy fuck that jam!

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:58 pm

Cats just can't get into a run without screwing up on o and d

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:58 pm

2 baskets in a row is not a spurt of death.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:58 pm

OH MY BALLO

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:58 pm

Throw it down big guy

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 pm

Under 10 at half, guess it could be worse?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 pm

Can’t feed Ballo enough

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 pm

Single digits. Let's get it done.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 pm

I knew Love was going to chuck a 3 there.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 pm

Got it 8 at half.

Got a chance.

MrKyle · Post by **MrKyle** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 pm

Well we look like we figured some stuff out at end of half - need stops and better shots
Our end of half/game plays don’t look good so I hope we aren’t in a nail biter

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:00 pm

3 airballs for Love

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:01 pm

clemson's already regressing to their mean
we need a big 2nd half!

LuteIsGod · Post by **LuteIsGod** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:01 pm

LLoyd should NOT have let Love back into the game. Clemson knows his tendencies and if he’s not going to drive, then he is a liability.

Terrible first half of coaching.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:01 pm

Love 2-9 from the field, 3 TO's

Pelle 1-5 from the field, 2 TO's

At least we got it under 10.

I'll repeat what I said at the beginning of the game.........we need to limit the TO's. If we do that we can still win this game. Repeat the 1st half and we'll be on the 1st flight back to Tucson

MrKyle · Post by **MrKyle** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm

LuteIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:01 pm LLoyd should NOT have let Love back into the game. Clemson knows his tendencies and if he’s not going to drive, then he is a liability.

Terrible first half of coaching.

Love had a few good drives last time he was in; but cannot resort to chucking 3s at end of half instead of trying to run some offense

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm

i think tommy's 2-5 this season (8-13? all time) when trailing at the half

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm

How many airballs has our MVP chucked so far?

Lute4God · Post by **Lute4God** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:14 pm
dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:07 pm Clemson plays smart basketball. They usually don't beat themselves.

I think we need to limit the stupid mistakes..........especially turnovers.

Win the turnover battle, win the game.

Bear Down Cats
Clemson only forces 9 turnovers a game. Lloyd will love it if the Cats stay below 10.

Tommy

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm

Would be nice too if we could shoot better than 18% from 3

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm

Abysmal first half. Airballs, turnovers, cold shooting but more depressing was letting Clemson score nearly 40 points.

Let’s see what this team is made of. 20 minutes left in their season.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm

MrKyle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm
LuteIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:01 pm LLoyd should NOT have let Love back into the game. Clemson knows his tendencies and if he’s not going to drive, then he is a liability.

Terrible first half of coaching.
Love had a few good drives last time he was in; but cannot resort to chucking 3s at end of half instead of trying to run some offense

The ball got kicked out to him w/ 6 seconds on the shot clock.

It was bad execution.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm

Clemson has NEVER trailed in 2.5 games. Teams are shooting 11-58 from three against them. That is insane

We are shooting 40%/18/37 which will never get it done. Larsson and Love a combined 3-14

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:05 pm

azcat49 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm Clemson has NEVER trailed in 2.5 games. Teams are shooting 11-58 from three against them. That is insane

And yet, does their defense really look all that smothering to you?

I see Arizona making a ton of unforced errors and taking bad shots.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:05 pm

He stopped after he crossed mid court and CTL gave him some coaching. Not sure what CTL said.

MrKyle · Post by **MrKyle** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:06 pm

wyo-cat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm
MrKyle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm
LuteIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:01 pm LLoyd should NOT have let Love back into the game. Clemson knows his tendencies and if he’s not going to drive, then he is a liability.

Terrible first half of coaching.
Love had a few good drives last time he was in; but cannot resort to chucking 3s at end of half instead of trying to run some offense
The ball got kicked out to him w/ 6 seconds on the shot clock.

It was bad execution.

Agree, meant more so that our end of half or game plays seem to always devolve to chuck a 3

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:06 pm

The 2nd half will turn on Love's performance.

Live by Love, Die by Love.

If he can't hit wide open 3's he needs to:

1) Drive to the hole
2) Facilitate for others

If he keeps chucking with the same results we are finished

cerec_cat · Post by **cerec_cat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:07 pm

I think (hope) we come out like an awesome team second half

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:07 pm

Boswell -11 in +/-, Johnson -8

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:07 pm

I would opine that the big arena is throwing our shooting off. But Love, Boz and Pelle have been off for a month.

MrKyle · Post by **MrKyle** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:08 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:05 pm
azcat49 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm Clemson has NEVER trailed in 2.5 games. Teams are shooting 11-58 from three against them. That is insane
And yet, does their defense really look all that smothering to you?

I see Arizona making a ton of unforced errors and taking bad shots.

This 100%, we are beating ourselves. Clemson is not missing open shots and capitalizing on our unforced turnovers

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:11 pm

I've been hard on Lloyd this season on purpose. He's too tight and conservative in big games. Our flaws get exploited against well coached teams with adequate talent. Love can't play sloppy against smart competition, and somehow Lloyd has not gotten that message across.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:12 pm

It's crazy how year after year after year, Arizona shows up in the tourney and has one of their worst games of the season. Sometimes it's the 2nd round, sometimes later. Sometimes it's even the 1st round against an Ivy League team.

Game isn't over yet. But so far, only Bradley, Lewis and Ballo are dialed in. I don't wanna see Larsson and Love go out like this.

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:13 pm

MrKyle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:08 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:05 pm
azcat49 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm Clemson has NEVER trailed in 2.5 games. Teams are shooting 11-58 from three against them. That is insane
And yet, does their defense really look all that smothering to you?

I see Arizona making a ton of unforced errors and taking bad shots.
This 100%, we are beating ourselves. Clemson is not missing open shots and capitalizing on our unforced turnovers

Their defense is the best we've seen in the tournament. Scott Drew is an excellent coach, and Clemson made Baylor look pedestrian. Granted they missed a ton of shot like we have. But it's the pressure that messes up your timing which can cause missed shots.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:14 pm

winning a title is hard.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:15 pm

dirtbags wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:14 pm winning a title is hard.

Yes it is.

This is not the NBA where we are playing a best of 7 series. Its one and done.

That means you have to be on your game for 6 straight games...........and Love hasn't had a streak like that all year.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:17 pm

Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:12 pm Game isn't over yet. But so far, only Bradley, Lewis and Ballo are dialed in. I don't wanna see Larsson and Love go out like this.

Ballo too. Give the big man the ball! He won't make a free throw, but like the analyst said, the other players will.

Postmaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:07 pm I would opine that the big arena is throwing our shooting off. But Love, Boz and Pelle have been off for a month.

Exactly, and Lloyd has been too. Let's see what he comes up with the 2nd half. Half time analysts figure the game it already over.

Lute4God · Post by **Lute4God** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:17 pm

Why didn't we press more after it worked ?

Will we see it in the second half after makes?

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:17 pm

Well, what do you want to see in the first five minutes of this half elbow

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:19 pm

First 5 minutes will determine our season. Plain and simple.

MrKyle · Post by **MrKyle** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:19 pm

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:17 pm Well, what do you want to see in the first five minutes of this half elbow

Driving to rack, and motion on offense to get lanes and looks.

defense wasn’t great first half so would like to see better close outs and switching so we don’t get out of position and can get some stops

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:20 pm

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:17 pm Well, what do you want to see in the first five minutes of this half elbow

I want to see us hit the boards ferociously, and tie the game or lead within the first five minutes of the second half to set the tone. From there, give ourselves a decent cushion by finding creative ways to pound the ball and drive to the basket.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:20 pm

MrKyle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:08 pm
Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:05 pm
azcat49 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:03 pm Clemson has NEVER trailed in 2.5 games. Teams are shooting 11-58 from three against them. That is insane
And yet, does their defense really look all that smothering to you?

I see Arizona making a ton of unforced errors and taking bad shots.
This 100%, we are beating ourselves. Clemson is not missing open shots and capitalizing on our unforced turnovers

IMNSHO, at least half of our missed shots were one's we all expect to hit at a high rate - open, in-the-flow, etc.

There's a damn lid on that basket

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:20 pm

CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:17 pm Well, what do you want to see in the first five minutes of this half elbow

spurt of death

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:22 pm

Keshad

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