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PHXCATS wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:06 am No one wants to watch baseball and softball?
Chip getting his ass kicked by ASU doesn't piss you off?
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I watch those sports, unfortunately they aren’t on that often.
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Lots of PAC-12 employees were out on Saturday night after the game. The regular people. To hear their stories is just heartbreaking. Really feel bad for them and they dont deserve people dancing to the grave of the PAC-12
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It is always the regular people who get hurt the most. The people at the top never suffer.
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Nobody is saying, or has ever said, the Pac12 network’s demise is due to the worker bees.

All stems from the top.
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Taking in some of the beach volleyball today, I'll miss having Olympic sports on in the background while I'm folding laundry.
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:57 pm Taking in some of the beach volleyball today, I'll miss having Olympic sports on in the background while I'm folding laundry.
Right now there's 2 Beach teams in the Big 12
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Not sure where to put this.

I heard the 10 teams that are leaving are each paying 5 million for leaving and another 1.5 million for something else.
So the last two teams will be splitting 65 million.

Also the 10 are foregoing any claims to any future money the conference might get. (Not sure where that would come from)
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^Free article:

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... ing-pac-12

Oregon State and Washington State have finalized a settlement over financial distributions with the 10 schools leaving the Pac-12.

The departing schools will have $5 million withheld during the 2024 fiscal year for a total of $50 million under the deal announced Monday. The departing schools also will each pay a $1.5 million "supplemental contribution" to the conference that will be used by the remaining schools to navigate an uncertain future.

The departing members will not be entitled to any revenue generated after this year and will have no "vote, direction input or other power with the conference's use, allocation of expenditure of the supplemental contribution."

The settlement was agreed to in principle late last year.

"We are pleased to finalize an agreement with OSU and WSU that provides support for all our student-athletes while ensuring an equal distribution of the vast majority of funds earned by all 12 schools during the 2023-24 academic year," the 10 schools that are leaving said in a statement. "Under this agreement, our schools will have the right to vote on matters that affect all 12 schools this year, while OSU and WSU will have control over future Conference revenue and decisions."

The Pac-12 unraveled when 10 members opted to leave the conference for new leagues next year, leaving only Oregon State and Washington State.

The conference's remaining members will have a scheduling alliance with the Mountain West Conference for at least 2024, possibly beyond. The schools will join the West Coast Conference as affiliate members in every sport except football and baseball the next two years.
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So outside of their normal cut for 2024 WSU and OSU will receive $65mil from the departing schools. Is that how I’m reading it?
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Yes, but that's only a drop in the bucket compared to future PAC revenues. For example, this year's tourney money won't get distributed until starting next season, and for 5 more years after that. Believe Lonzano said that will be $190M additional. So if I understand correctly, the UA will not make a dime if they win the Natty.

A good explanation here on NCAA funding:
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Tough times in Pullman
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asu turds thought that they could have gotten him

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How would we feel if we hired an AD from our…cough, cough…rival?

No thanks. Stained.
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No doubt he has a tremendous amount of confidence if he thinks he can compete in the Big 10 after all the departures.

Along with WSU receiving a huge windfall from the PAC, and UW only get 50% share from the Big 10 to start.
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EastCoastCat wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:36 pm How would we feel if we hired an AD from our…cough, cough…rival?

No thanks. Stained.
I wouldnt give a fuck if they were a really good AD

Chun is a very good AD
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So we give up our NCAA units from the pac, do we get big 12 units from the tourney?
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:49 pm So we give up our NCAA units from the pac, do we get big 12 units from the tourney?
Probably not for this years tournament
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EastCoastCat wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:36 pm How would we feel if we hired an AD from our…cough, cough…rival?

No thanks. Stained.
Like Greg Byrne?
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:49 pm So we give up our NCAA units from the pac, do we get big 12 units from the tourney?
We’ll be a member of a conf next year that puts a shedload of teams in the dance. 2/16 this year. It’ll be no biggie.
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UA is getting a full share from media rights next season ($31.7M), so I imagine so. Currently more than UW and UO will be getting from the Big 10, but that will change by 2030 when the PNW schools get full shares. USC and UCLA get full shares immediately.
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LOL

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100,000,000% better than the Big 12
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Let's see, the Big 12 has...

More money
More exposure
Better broadcasts
Better teams

Pac 12 is a weird hill to die on.
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AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:04 pm Let's see, the Big 12 has...

More money-Nope
More exposure-Nope
Better broadcasts-Hell no
Better teams-Not really

Pac 12 is a weird hill to die on.
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Watching the baseball team yesterday vs UCLA and saw something I have never seen before.

The announcer left the game because he had to catch a flight and the last inning was in complete silence except for the crowd noise.

Seemed fitting in a way. You fully expected him to say, “last guy out turn out the lights”
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PHXCATS wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:23 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:04 pm Let's see, the Big 12 has...

More money-Nope
More exposure-Nope
Better broadcasts-Hell no
Better teams-Not really

Pac 12 is a weird hill to die on.
You do you stan
Are you on drugs?
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azcat49 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:59 am Watching the baseball team yesterday vs UCLA and saw something I have never seen before.

The announcer left the game because he had to catch a flight and the last inning was in complete silence except for the crowd noise.

Seemed fitting in a way. You fully expected him to say, “last guy out turn out the lights”
I was at game so didn’t realize that. It did look like there was no camera on the first base side.

I didn’t pick up on that while watching the home run replay.
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PHXCATS wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:38 pm 100,000,000% better than the Big 12
That is such a bizarre post for you to have this response to.
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The announcer, Brian Webber, says he was going to a sunrise Easter service with his family, which almost sounds like a good excuse, if it's even true. But, I'm pretty damned sure he could have worked it out with later flights, regardless. And he's responsible for making those overly tight arrangements when he contracted to do a live TV broadcast. You can't anticipate that a game with third-day college pitchers might run long? But, what a perfect parable for the network, and yeah, I'd expect more of it down the stretch. Broadcast personnel don't have to worry that pissing off the execs at the Pac-12 network will hurt their careers. And next season, our revenue sports will mostly be on the ESPNs and the Fox networks. Our non-revenue stuff will stream on ESPN3, just like most P4 schools.
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Looks like they are replaying all three games on PAC12AZ today. Game 2 just started.
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ChooChooCat wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:43 am
PHXCATS wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:38 pm 100,000,000% better than the Big 12
That is such a bizarre post for you to have this response to.
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so so good
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Did the PAC-12 not vet George? You think that would have come out first day.
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Is it only on PAC AZ or is the main PAC channel?
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Pac 12 aired a goodbye video after baseball's win tonight to close out the network.

While we got a nice shot of Sean Miller cutting down the nets and the Hill Mary play, there were also two shots of men's basketball getting upset at the buzzer, because that did seem to define our time on the network.
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It’s too bad the network fucked the conference.

Good riddance.
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I think I only saw the Scummies in that video once or twice LOL.
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Fuck Larry Scott in perpetuity. He deserves an eternal torment only Prometheus would appreciate.
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I was surprised there was nothing from Walton in the broadcast, even some sort of taped appearance.
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Roxy once again gives us a wrap on the Pac 12, this time with a rightful Bill Walton tribute. Hope Bill can get through whatever is going on with him.
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Zeus and TJ sighting in that first video!

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They are still broadcasting old games? Is their nationwide viewing audience in the hundreds now?

https://pac-12.com/tv-listings/pac-12-network

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Aren't Wazzu and ntOSU keeping the PAC-12 name?

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Merkin wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:24 am Aren't Wazzu and ntOSU keeping the PAC-12 name?
They are. I guess it would be more fair to say it was the last play of the Pac 12 as a power conference. There's no way even in a rebuild the Pac 12 can ever be a power conference again.
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Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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Whatevs.

They can have it. They are MW now.
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So we're officially up to doing the Weekend at Bernie's routine with the Pac 12's corpse.
“The reality is that the hardest games to win are over teams on their home court. Teams that don’t play those games can spin it however they want, but what they’re saying is, ‘We don’t want to lose in our non conference season.’" - Sean Miller
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I inadvertently went to the PAC-12 International Channel on Youtube when looking for something else. I was really amazed it was still up. No VPN required now!

Is anyone even watching? Probably 0 viewers watching an old ASU/USC football game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl0NEEXYt_s
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Merkin wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:52 pm Is anyone even watching?
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