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See what I mean. Now it's all about me.PHXCATS wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:00 amWould be huge to get first place, would guarantee us a birth in the NIT since I was assured many times we would not make the NCAAAlieberman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:37 am What a roll we are on... and the tough games don't stop anytime soon. I still expect we will drop a couple more games... but I am amazed by the consistency that we are playing at every game.
@ Kansas St worries me... but even if we drop that 1... 1st place will still be on the line when we play Houston... and since we only play Houston once... winner would own the tie breaker
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Agree that it was an oddly called game and that Tech was annoying. In particular their propensity to hit a 3 every time the Cats were about to put them away.
The story will be about the Cats flipping the rebounding totals from the prior game but for me it was Awaka and Veesaar combining for 29 points compared to their 8 in Lubbock and the balanced scoring from Arizona (ADO aside).
Stephen’s 8 seconds of play was also odd. In what is becoming a bit of a recurring theme — Bryant had a hard time staying on the floor due to foul trouble. Also agree that Arizona at times played unfocused, or, at least had a bunch of soft TOs, especially from Lewis (tell me you dont cringe every time he dribbles the ball in to the paint).
This one honestly just felt like business as usual to me which is something that shocks me after the start to the season.
Saw a tweet about the most difficult remaining schedules in the B12 and Arizona’s was the 2nd most difficult (to CU). What was interesting to me was that each of the 6 or so schools with the most difficult remaining schedules was a newbie.
Couple that with the 2 teams at the top of the conference standings also being newbies, Houston having won the conference last season, and the B12’s relatively poor NCAAT performance of late (especially last season); and one take I have as of today is that the conference has been overrated.
Which likely was part of Arizona being picked to finish 5th. Coming off of a slew of Pac conference/tournament and multiteam event titles and consecutive 1 - 2 - 2 seeds.
The story will be about the Cats flipping the rebounding totals from the prior game but for me it was Awaka and Veesaar combining for 29 points compared to their 8 in Lubbock and the balanced scoring from Arizona (ADO aside).
Stephen’s 8 seconds of play was also odd. In what is becoming a bit of a recurring theme — Bryant had a hard time staying on the floor due to foul trouble. Also agree that Arizona at times played unfocused, or, at least had a bunch of soft TOs, especially from Lewis (tell me you dont cringe every time he dribbles the ball in to the paint).
This one honestly just felt like business as usual to me which is something that shocks me after the start to the season.
Saw a tweet about the most difficult remaining schedules in the B12 and Arizona’s was the 2nd most difficult (to CU). What was interesting to me was that each of the 6 or so schools with the most difficult remaining schedules was a newbie.
Couple that with the 2 teams at the top of the conference standings also being newbies, Houston having won the conference last season, and the B12’s relatively poor NCAAT performance of late (especially last season); and one take I have as of today is that the conference has been overrated.
Which likely was part of Arizona being picked to finish 5th. Coming off of a slew of Pac conference/tournament and multiteam event titles and consecutive 1 - 2 - 2 seeds.
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Losses from teams ahead of us in the AP Poll this week:
19 UConn
18 Maryland
16 Kansas
15 Missouri
14 Kentucky
13 Texas Tech
11 Marquette
8 Iowa State
I could see us slot in around 11th or 12th this week. All of a sudden 6 losses isn’t terrible.
19 UConn
18 Maryland
16 Kansas
15 Missouri
14 Kentucky
13 Texas Tech
11 Marquette
8 Iowa State
I could see us slot in around 11th or 12th this week. All of a sudden 6 losses isn’t terrible.
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All I know is the games are ultra competitive and fun to watch compared to the last 15-20 seasons of the PAC where you might get a couple of games in conference that would rise to that level each year.
And I think Arizona has always been a program that gets up for big games and tough opponents so for me this is a match made in heaven.
And I think Arizona has always been a program that gets up for big games and tough opponents so for me this is a match made in heaven.
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Hell yea. The pedestrian nature of the past 15-20year of pac ball did not serve us well
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I like this coach. At the end he handles Bruce similarly to Tommy. Also, our players should give a listen to his description of our D, because a respectful opponent who isn't making excuses for his own team will likely tell you the truth about yourself.
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I found a YT short of Machina posting on BDW:
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In the game thread someone compared McCasland to Hurley (just because of his demeanor in the moment I think) but he couldn’t be more different than Bobby Boy. Tons of respect for TTU and their coach. Not looking forward to seeing them in KC.
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If we only didn't have such a shitty start!
Quad 1 win Leaders
Auburn-12
Tennessee- 8
7 Quad 1 wins-
Arizona
Kentucky
Oregon
Purdue
Texas A and M
Wisconsin
Alabama
Quad 1 win Leaders
Auburn-12
Tennessee- 8
7 Quad 1 wins-
Arizona
Kentucky
Oregon
Purdue
Texas A and M
Wisconsin
Alabama
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Just needed a little more time gel.
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This is what I think you are referring to from TT coach.dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:59 am I like this coach. At the end he handles Bruce similarly to Tommy. Also, our players should give a listen to his description of our D, because a respectful opponent who isn't making excuses for his own team will likely tell you the truth about yourself.
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That was me, but after listening to his presser I take it back. Dead on analysis of what happened last night and showed a ton of respect on how we played. Can certainly understand why he and Tommy get along.
My observation was based on his sideline demeanor which is a bit animated at times.
But TT certainly has a keeper and I will root for them when not playing us.
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I think he's out of eligibility so I don't think they will be too affected!
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Good to know that in this topsy turvy world some things never change.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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How do you even find less than 6 grams of Marij?
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That's actually not a small amount. 28 grams is an ounce. Probably what we used to call a dime bag in the 70s.
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36 year old at KSU?CalStateTempe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:12 am This good for us tueday?
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/b ... fae19.html
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BYU has a player born in 1998. Religious mission, military service, JC years don't count now, and so on, so it is possible.
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I’m an idiot
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They should rename the school
Bring'em Old University.
Is that some grey hair on that head?
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
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I gotta say that the Big12 is extremely disappointing in terms of content creation
Glad the team is playing better teams in conference but absolutely no good content out there
Glad the team is playing better teams in conference but absolutely no good content out there
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Lmao…
What a joke. Lol
What a joke. Lol
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What is the joke? Besides you thinking Beasley was still at KSU?
That the PAC-12 had multiple podcasts that were good and Big 12 has none?
Wishing there was a cool and good podcast about the Big 12 is a joke to you?
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I could give a rat's ass about podcasts.
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Good for you
I liked the PAC-12 ones and wish there were good Big12 ones
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I listened to a really good ISU podcast after we beat them
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I rather have conference wide ones but which one? The guy Wildcat Country had on for TTU was really coolAlieberman wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 1:36 pm I listened to a really good ISU podcast after we beat them
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Double edged sword.
I firmly believe daily podcasts are a huge cancer to fanbases and teams but you want constant content
I think Luke and Scheer mean well but they end up doing far more harm than good at the end of the day
Once or twice weekly podcasts from creators is the sweet spot
I firmly believe daily podcasts are a huge cancer to fanbases and teams but you want constant content
I think Luke and Scheer mean well but they end up doing far more harm than good at the end of the day
Once or twice weekly podcasts from creators is the sweet spot
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Well one thing for sure is that I will now go find some Big XII podcasts to compare. Frankly, I don’t remember being wowed by any PAC 12 ones
There was one I liked but now he is doing B1G stuff so he must have been aligned with those schools that went that direction.
There was one I liked but now he is doing B1G stuff so he must have been aligned with those schools that went that direction.
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Yes that was one of the good ones. They were the Scheers of UCLA and USC but did an amazing job talking all PAC12azcat49 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 1:45 pm Well one thing for sure is that I will now go find some Big XII podcasts to compare. Frankly, I don’t remember being wowed by any PAC 12 ones
There was one I liked but now he is doing B1G stuff so he must have been aligned with those schools that went that direction.
Two other really good ones as well back in the real pac12 days
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tbf to ECC, his comment was 100% spot-on during the game. it was a huge hurley-level mental lapse by mccasland to even give the refs a chance to T him up. in the moment, i think many of us thought, "wow, this is a gift" - iirc, it happened right before the last media timeout and we were up by only 4 or 5 points. the technical foul swung another 4pts our way in an already tight game. about a week ago, mccasland even said - maybe sarcastically, idk - that he'd be more careful after he and toppin got double-teched and tossed during the houston game.EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:55 amThat was me, but after listening to his presser I take it back. Dead on analysis of what happened last night and showed a ton of respect on how we played. Can certainly understand why he and Tommy get along.
My observation was based on his sideline demeanor which is a bit animated at times.
But TT certainly has a keeper and I will root for them when not playing us.
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So at the time I thought it was weak sauce by the refs. He wasn’t at all out of line.dirtbags wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:52 pmtbf to ECC, his comment was 100% spot-on during the game. it was a huge hurley-level mental lapse by mccasland to even give the refs a chance to T him up. in the moment, i think many of us thought, "wow, this is a gift" - iirc, it happened right before the last media timeout and we were up by only 4 or 5 points. the technical foul swung another 4pts our way in an already tight game. about a week ago, mccasland even said - maybe sarcastically, idk - that he'd be more careful after he and toppin got double-teched and tossed during the houston game.EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:55 amThat was me, but after listening to his presser I take it back. Dead on analysis of what happened last night and showed a ton of respect on how we played. Can certainly understand why he and Tommy get along.
My observation was based on his sideline demeanor which is a bit animated at times.
But TT certainly has a keeper and I will root for them when not playing us.
Then Merkin pointed out that he had come out on the court. Which I think he did. So the tech was warranted.
But then someone else pointed out that he was out of timeouts at the time and may have figured that getting T’d up at least would stop the clock and give them a reset even if it did result in two points, which I’m not so sure about since the game was still pretty close and they did have tons of time on the clock.
McCasland admitted to making mistakes in the second half. Not sure if that would include the tech or burning through his timeouts before the under-4 break. I thought he fought for his team. And he fought with them. Sometimes you come up short. He earned my respect last night, and not just because he and Tommy are friends and he said nice things about us. His team is fucking TOUGH. He had them counterpunching us all night. What a game.
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No Merkin. In the 70's it was called a lid cost $10 and was an once. I also know how my grams in a oz. but not from buying marij. So we are talking a little less that 1/4 oz. My question remains how did they find it? dog? maybe scanner picked up something that they wanted to check out.
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Well, it would have been nice to see the replay of both the foul and McCasland’s response. My point in another thread.Chicat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 3:09 pmSo at the time I thought it was weak sauce by the refs. He wasn’t at all out of line.dirtbags wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:52 pmtbf to ECC, his comment was 100% spot-on during the game. it was a huge hurley-level mental lapse by mccasland to even give the refs a chance to T him up. in the moment, i think many of us thought, "wow, this is a gift" - iirc, it happened right before the last media timeout and we were up by only 4 or 5 points. the technical foul swung another 4pts our way in an already tight game. about a week ago, mccasland even said - maybe sarcastically, idk - that he'd be more careful after he and toppin got double-teched and tossed during the houston game.EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:55 amThat was me, but after listening to his presser I take it back. Dead on analysis of what happened last night and showed a ton of respect on how we played. Can certainly understand why he and Tommy get along.
My observation was based on his sideline demeanor which is a bit animated at times.
But TT certainly has a keeper and I will root for them when not playing us.
Then Merkin pointed out that he had come out on the court. Which I think he did. So the tech was warranted.
But then someone else pointed out that he was out of timeouts at the time and may have figured that getting T’d up at least would stop the clock and give them a reset even if it did result in two points, which I’m not so sure about since the game was still pretty close and they did have tons of time on the clock.
McCasland admitted to making mistakes in the second half. Not sure if that would include the tech or burning through his timeouts before the under-4 break. I thought he fought for his team. And he fought with them. Sometimes you come up short. He earned my respect last night, and not just because he and Tommy are friends and he said nice things about us. His team is fucking TOUGH. He had them counterpunching us all night. What a game.
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Anyone that didn't click on this link (provided above) should do so. This was very informative; also interesting. And this TT coach is a class act.TheCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:41 amThis is what I think you are referring to from TT coach.dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:59 am I like this coach. At the end he handles Bruce similarly to Tommy. Also, our players should give a listen to his description of our D, because a respectful opponent who isn't making excuses for his own team will likely tell you the truth about yourself.
https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+t ... AElog,st:0
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That's what I love so much about this team. It's the sheer grittiness they play with and the willingness even eagerness to play in physical, grind-it-out games with tight scores. Bradley is my favorite player for that reason; but lately KJ and Caleb right there with him.
At BYU they got to that confident aggressive place in the 2H.
But last night it was there all game long. What a monster of a team Tommy has going here!
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TT coach is being mentioned for the Indiana job also. Hope they keep him. Article said Indiana had huge NIL money so recruiting should not be an issue with the right coach.
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I used to buy a quarter pound of sansemilla for $160, and sell three ozs for $60 each.
That was grad school and early professional career economy...
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But, in the article I read, Texas Tech is one of only five schools that spends more on basketball than Indiana...
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West Texas oil money should keep him at Tech. There is a reason their football portal class was top 20 this year
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Sounds about right. a $10 bag of "shake" would be over $30 today!
Was about 1 or 2% then, today weed is what even 25%!?
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Hawaiian was about $100-$125 an ounce and worth it!
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On your white horse, Mescalito, you come breezin' through town ....
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You could by a pound of Mexican for $70-80 drive it to Regis college in Denver and sell it for $40/oz. All the 3/2 beer you could drink on campus also. Then drive back the next day and pay rent and have money for food for a month.
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Now that's when America was great! My southern Oregon buddy planted 50 patches a year planning to lose 75% of them. The $ he made, despite getting busted, was, well ..... $80k in 1979 seemed like all the money in the world.
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80K back then was all the money in the world. What did a vet cost $10-11K?dovecanyoncat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:13 pmNow that's when America was great! My southern Oregon buddy planted 50 patches a year planning to lose 75% of them. The $ he made, despite getting busted, was, well ..... $80k in 1979 seemed like all the money in the world.