Transfer Palooza Thread

[U.P. Zona Fan]

Not a huge shock. Can't blame him for wanting more playing time.

Does this mean Bradley is staying?

[Beachcat97]

Not a huge shock. Can't blame him for wanting more playing time.

Does this mean Bradley is staying?

Let's hope! He and Veesaar are the most essential returning players, imo.

[UAEebs86]

Not a huge shock. Can't blame him for wanting more playing time.

Does this mean Bradley is staying?

Let's hope! He and Veesaar are the most essential returning players, imo.

Henri is gone.

[Postmaster]

Is there any chance of bringing back the 1 year of sitting if you transfer rule... or has that ship totally sailed?

To me, that would seem like the way to get a handle on this yearly free-for-all

There would have to be some kind of demonstrable benefit to the student athlete so that the NCAA wouldn't get trounced (again) in court when someone files suit.

The argument is that if an engineering student can pick up and transfer to another school that has a program better aligned with his or her interests, why shouldn’t an athlete be able to?

If it's applied to coaches (head and assistants) and AD's, then MAYBE a "fairness" case could be made...

... will never happen.

How about buyouts?

"Buyouts" of what?

I get all my money back for any NCAA branded apparel.

[Postmaster]

Not a huge shock. Can't blame him for wanting more playing time.

Does this mean Bradley is staying?

Do those 2 really affect each other?

And why wasn't it reported as AZ big man Conrad Martinez enters the portal?

[84Cat]

Not a huge shock. Can't blame him for wanting more playing time.

Does this mean Bradley is staying?

Do those 2 really affect each other?

And why wasn't it reported as AZ big man Conrad Martinez enters the portal?

[TucsonClip]

Compiling a couple posts here, less because of any narrative on this board, but more a narrative I see a few other places and it just irks me...

When discussing Henri, there's a difference between individual production and amplifying the effectiveness of multiple lineups and a system.

Henri amplifies because he has an NBA skill set. He may not rebound like Rudy Gobert, but he's a C who is a legit connector, finisher, and provides versatility on defense which allows us to run all our ball screen coverages.

I know the cool thing is to say, who cares, he's not THAT good, wait till you see the end roster, we can find a replacement, ect.

Henri fits better than any C Lloyd has had here on both ends of the floor. I don't want to give that, including the continuity, up because we can "replace" his individual production.

To boil it down evener further. You could tell, or at least I could, immediately that Henri knows how to operate in space, within our system, has elite PNR footwork, spacial awareness and recognition, plus the context of when to roll, see a short roll opportunity coming, all while keeping himself open to the ball in PNR, ebbing and flowing with off the ball handlers probing and reaction from the defense, in order to stay big, and receive a pass, read a lob, ect.

These are all minute skills that compound on each other. You want to see the difference between Henri and virtually any other C in the conference? See the above. Again, even further. Go watch Henri do the above, and then watch any tape on Eman, hell even Awaka. That's the cavernous size gap we are talking about by simply adding anyone who can replace production (not saying Eman could).

[Alieberman]

Show him the Money....

[Postmaster]

I think those skills are why the team played better after MK went down. It just opened up more options. I obviously don't have the verbiage that Clip has but I get that it isn't just as simple as "henri is better than MK".

[dmjcat]

[TucsonClip]

I think those skills are why the team played better after MK went down. It just opened up more options. I obviously don't have the verbiage that Clip has but I get that it isn't just as simple as "henri is better than MK".

100% you saw the offense open up, and the defensive coverages became more multiple.

Our offense began to hum this season when Lloyd paired Henri and Carter with Love, Bradley and KJ. The offense was lifted (nearly all action happening above the FT line), the floor spread, driving lanes opened, and Henri began to unlock pressure defenses with his passing and short roll ability.

Now think of the other side of the floor. We don't need to sit in a drop, we can blitz and put 2 on the ball, we can hedge, and we can switch 1-5 against certain teams.

Good luck finding someone who can do all that, and then he began to hit 3s as well.

Look, he's not the savior, but as I said previously, hes a force multiplier on both ends of the floor. He's a great fit for what we want to do, and our personnel, even despite his flaws.

[Alieberman]

By not hearing anything about Bradley, Tobe and Mo… yet.. are we to assume they are all staying?

[Beachcat97]

Not a huge shock. Can't blame him for wanting more playing time.

Does this mean Bradley is staying?

Let's hope! He and Veesaar are the most essential returning players, imo.

Henri is gone.

Where is this confirmed?

[Fishclamps]

It's not. Not to say he couldn't still be gone but him not committing to UNC before he left his visit gives us hope.

[pc in NM]

By not hearing anything about Bradley, Tobe and Mo… yet.. are we to assume they are all staying?

Players can enter the portal through April 22...

[Alieberman]

By not hearing anything about Bradley, Tobe and Mo… yet.. are we to assume they are all staying?

Players can enter the portal through April 22...

I realize that... but why would you wait if you are looking for $$$$ when the portal is filled with your competition?

[pc in NM]

By not hearing anything about Bradley, Tobe and Mo… yet.. are we to assume they are all staying?

Players can enter the portal through April 22...

I realize that... but why would you wait if you are looking for $$$$ when the portal is filled with your competition?

I never understood 19 year olds, even when I was one...

[Chicat]

There’s an argument for waiting until teams are desperate for a player of your caliber at your position. Including your former team…

[dmjcat]

Travis Branham just threw in a Crystal Ball for Veesaar to North Carolina.

Given the $$$$ flying around I'm not surprised. The UA can't afford him.

[84Cat]

Travis Branham just threw in a Crystal Ball for Veesaar to North Carolina.

Given the $$$$ flying around I'm not surprised. The UA can't afford him.

https://247sports.com/playerinstitution ... edictions/

[dirtbags]

There’s an argument for waiting until teams are desperate for a player of your caliber at your position. Including your former team…

now is def the time for players to shop around though, before mad cash dash monday. collectives are scrambling rn to sign players before monday's house settlement hearing (which may not be approved then anyway?) and getting deals inked before potential limits from collectives & boosters are imposed. one proposal on the table is the formation of a new NCAA subdivision and the formation of an LLC, comprised of two ADs from each power 4 conference, to administer and enforce NIL and salary caps. arizona is one of the committee members involved with the proposal. under their model, deals from booster groups would have to go through this LLC for approval.

idk if this is another cry for federal intervention, or if the P4 are making moves to spin-off or what, but the money dump sign-o-rama might tell us where henri's head is at and the sort of financial headwinds we're dealing with to keep him around. i'm sure he's seeing big numbers and will want to take advantage of this limited time opportunity.

[Beachcat97]

Welp, I'm still holding out hope that Veesaar has a change of heart.

Our ceiling next season will be greatly impacted by his decision, imo. He can do things that Krivas cannot.

[AZCatGirl]

Veesaar just committed to UNC.

[84Cat]

Veesaar just committed to UNC.

[Chicat]

Well that fucking sucks.

Maybe we could get some guys transferring IN for a change?!?

[Irish27]

Need to keep Awaka.

[Beachcat97]

Veesaar just committed to UNC.

So, so stupid. I don't mean Veesaar. I just mean the current state of college basketball.

The only way to get to a FF is if (a) you hit the damn lotto in the transfer portal, (b) you somehow manage to keep vital players for longer than a season, and/or (c) you get a recruiting class like Duke's.

[dovecanyoncat]

Let's just tell ourselves that Henri is transferring because we have so much NIL $ to spend we can get anyone we want to replace him, so he has to go.

[Winger]

Veesaar just committed to UNC.

So, so stupid. I don't mean Veesaar. I just mean the current state of college basketball.

The only way to get to a FF is if (a) you hit the damn lotto in the transfer portal, (b) you somehow manage to keep vital players for longer than a season, and/or (c) you get a recruiting class like Duke's.

Fwiw Duke nailed down that recruiting class because they paid them a ton. I don't know the exact number but I wouldn't be surprised if they made twice Arizona's entire NIL. Unfortunately I believe the secret to both hitting the lotto in the transfer portal and keeping vital players is the exact same thing ($$$$). I don't have this for certain yet but I am almost positive that such that Arizona considered Veesaar to be "vital" he'd still be in an Arizona uniform.

[Fishclamps]

I think people keep forgetting Tommy fucking loves Krivas

[TheCat]

This guy is going to be good with the right coach.

[Beachcat97]

I think people keep forgetting Tommy fucking loves Krivas

Krivas is solid. He’s just less versatile and athletic than Veesaar.

Aside from Koa, we don’t know a single other starter for next year’s team. Maybe Dell’Orso?

[azcat49]

I think people keep forgetting Tommy fucking loves Krivas

Krivas is solid. He’s just less versatile and athletic than Veesaar.

Aside from Koa, we don’t know a single other starter for next year’s team. Maybe Dell’Orso?

This probably applies to a bunch of teams.

[Postmaster]

Travis Branham just threw in a Crystal Ball for Veesaar to North Carolina.

Given the $$$$ flying around I'm not surprised. The UA can't afford him.

https://247sports.com/playerinstitution ... edictions/

CBB better be all over Marcus Allen.

[Beachcat97]

I think people keep forgetting Tommy fucking loves Krivas

Krivas is solid. He’s just less versatile and athletic than Veesaar.

Aside from Koa, we don’t know a single other starter for next year’s team. Maybe Dell’Orso?

This probably applies to a bunch of teams.

I suppose I'm less interested in which teams it applies to right now than in what kind of shape Houston, Florida, Duke and Auburn found themselves at this point a year ago. Are those rosters comprised largely of guys in their first season with those teams? Or were these four just lucky to avoid the mass exodus currently underway at Arizona?

[Fishclamps]

Florida's best player is a transfer, Auburn's best player is a transfer, Duke's starters are mostly freshmen.

Houston is the only team that is mostly intact from original recruiting.

[SCCats]

Veesaar just committed to UNC.

Yeah I think that just about ends my 38 year or so college basketball fandom experience. It was a great run.

[Chicat]

Veesaar just committed to UNC.

Yeah I think that just about ends my 38 year or so college basketball fandom experience. It was a great run.

A guy who started like 6 games AFTER Krivas got injured transfering has you out on Arizona Basketball?? That kind of roster change happened regularly before NIL. Don’t get it twisted.

[SCCats]

Veesaar just committed to UNC.

Yeah I think that just about ends my 38 year or so college basketball fandom experience. It was a great run.

A guy who started like 6 games AFTER Krivas got injured transfering has you out on Arizona Basketball?? That kind of roster change happened regularly before NIL. Don’t get it twisted.

It’s always something that breaks the dam. That was it for me: Henri MF’ing Veesaar. I didn’t have that being the thing that ends things on my bingo card.

But yeah *I’ve* had enough of this semi pro whatever it is.

[EastCoastCat]

It’s funny that NC fans think they are getting this elite big man probably because they only watched his highlight clips.

Let’s face it, while Henri developed and became a contributor he also had a lot of flaws.

Time to move on.

[CatMG]

It’s funny that NC fans think they are getting this elite big man probably because they only watched his highlight clips.

Let’s face it, while Henri developed and became a contributor he also had a lot of flaws.

Time to move on.

Seems that most on here seem to think the same. Now Krivas is persona non grata and nowhere on the level of Veesar (no idea if he is leaving as well) . Wonder what the opinion would have been if Arizona would only keep Krivas or Veesaar at this point last season?

Depressing to watch CTL develop these big men only to watch them leave. You would think these players might consider staying for that reason alone.

[AZCatGirl]

It’s funny that NC fans think they are getting this elite big man probably because they only watched his highlight clips.

Let’s face it, while Henri developed and became a contributor he also had a lot of flaws.

Time to move on.

Seems that most on here seem to think the same. Now Krivas is persona non grata and nowhere on the level of Veesar (no idea if he is leaving as well) . Wonder what the opinion would have been if Arizona would only keep Krivas or Veesaar at this point last season?

Depressing to watch CTL develop these big men only to watch them leave. You would think these players might consider staying for that reason alone.

From what I understand Krivas was the priority so we let Henri go.

[Fishclamps]

I can't believe i have to keep saying this, Tommy loves Krivas.

If it ever came down to Veesar or Krivas Tommy picks Krivas immediately no hesitation, he expects big things from him.

[pc in NM]

Under CTL, all prior transfers were players who just weren't getting the PT they wanted (e. g., Borivicin, Murauskas), or key players falling short of expectations (Krissa, Boswell). The exception was Ballo, a key starter - but most understood his opportunity to cash in. Stephen and Martinez are consistent with these.

However, Lewis and Veesaar are different. Both were key contributors to the quality and effectiveness of the team. Both are BIG losses. I can't believe that CTL wanted either to leave...

Henri made huge progress this season, and I expect he will continue too improve in the next two years. I think most of us would agree that Henri's performance this year was better than what most of us hoped/expected from Krivas. I myself, would be happy if Krivas played as well as Henri did this year.

KJ is our best defensive player, and a major contributor. Losing him is also a BIG loss.

I fear this may be the first evidence that Arizona is actually suffering from the NIL/Portal arrangements as they currently exist. Especially as the unregulated nature of NIL contracting continues, I think we could see increasingly big money differences. WTF - Dent is reportedly getting $3mil from UCLA!!!

[Postmaster]

KJ is the one that really surprises me.
Supposedly it was his choice to come off the bench. So starting shouldn't be a factor.
He has wanted to be a Wildcat his whole life.
He has developed.
The wrist might have caused some of his shooting issues.

Is he worried about playing time from Burries?
Is he worried about playing time from CB, or James?
Is he really getting a huge payday?
Has he ever spent the winter on the east coast?

[Chicat]

KJ is the one that really surprises me.
Supposedly it was his choice to come off the bench. So starting shouldn't be a factor.
He has wanted to be a Wildcat his whole life.
He has developed.
The wrist might have caused some of his shooting issues.

Is he worried about playing time from Burries?
Is he worried about playing time from CB, or James?
Is he really getting a huge payday?
Has he ever spent the winter on the east coast?

Fishclamps mentioned that the rumor on the Georgetown choice is he wants to play with Micah Peavy since he's close with the family, playing some of his high school ball under David Peavy.

[CatMG]

It’s funny that NC fans think they are getting this elite big man probably because they only watched his highlight clips.

Let’s face it, while Henri developed and became a contributor he also had a lot of flaws.

Time to move on.

Seems that most on here seem to think the same. Now Krivas is persona non grata and nowhere on the level of Veesar (no idea if he is leaving as well) . Wonder what the opinion would have been if Arizona would only keep Krivas or Veesaar at this point last season?

Depressing to watch CTL develop these big men only to watch them leave. You would think these players might consider staying for that reason alone.

From what I understand Krivas was the priority so we let Henri go.

I imagine we will see massive improvements from Krivas if he is healthy. Every other big man under CTL has improved dramatically.

[Fishclamps]

Under CTL, all prior transfers were players who just weren't getting the PT they wanted (e. g., Borivicin, Murauskas), or key players falling short of expectations (Krissa, Boswell). The exception was Ballo, a key starter - but most understood his opportunity to cash in. Stephen and Martinez are consistent with these.

However, Lewis and Veesaar are different. Both were key contributors to the quality and effectiveness of the team. Both are BIG losses. I can't believe that CTL wanted either to leave...

Henri made huge progress this season, and I expect he will continue too improve in the next two years. I think most of us would agree that Henri's performance this year was better than what most of us hoped/expected from Krivas. I myself, would be happy if Krivas played as well as Henri did this year.

KJ is our best defensive player, and a major contributor. Losing him is also a BIG loss.

I fear this may be the first evidence that Arizona is actually suffering from the NIL/Portal arrangements as they currently exist. Especially as the unregulated nature of NIL contracting continues, I think we could see increasingly big money differences. WTF - Dent is reportedly getting $3mil from UCLA!!!

No one is saying he wanted either to leave, but you have to allocate your resources in a way that leads you build the best team possible and usually schools in the portal are a hell of a lot more desperate to sign your player than you are and have the money to do it.

If you think Arizona is suffering I would urge you to look at every other school in the portal and notice that they are all losing key people, even the vaunted Purdue team that's starting 5 was all high school recruits that had stuck with the program up until a week ago.

This is life for every school out there until things change.

[pc in NM]

Under CTL, all prior transfers were players who just weren't getting the PT they wanted (e. g., Borivicin, Murauskas), or key players falling short of expectations (Krissa, Boswell). The exception was Ballo, a key starter - but most understood his opportunity to cash in. Stephen and Martinez are consistent with these.

However, Lewis and Veesaar are different. Both were key contributors to the quality and effectiveness of the team. Both are BIG losses. I can't believe that CTL wanted either to leave...

Henri made huge progress this season, and I expect he will continue too improve in the next two years. I think most of us would agree that Henri's performance this year was better than what most of us hoped/expected from Krivas. I myself, would be happy if Krivas played as well as Henri did this year.

KJ is our best defensive player, and a major contributor. Losing him is also a BIG loss.

I fear this may be the first evidence that Arizona is actually suffering from the NIL/Portal arrangements as they currently exist. Especially as the unregulated nature of NIL contracting continues, I think we could see increasingly big money differences. WTF - Dent is reportedly getting $3mil from UCLA!!!

No one is saying he wanted either to leave, but you have to allocate your resources in a way that leads you build the best team possible and usually schools in the portal are a hell of a lot more desperate to sign your player than you are and have the money to do it.

If you think Arizona is suffering I would urge you to look at every other school in the portal and notice that they are all losing key people, even the vaunted Purdue team that's starting 5 was all high school recruits that had stuck with the program up until a week ago.

This is life for every school out there until things change.

All I'm saying is that these two transfers are different than past transfers under CTL; and I think that difference is significant and is/should be a concern for Arizona. Hope I'm proven to be wrong.

[Fishclamps]

But that same concern is hitting nearly every single P4 team across the country, we are not unique in that regard.